QB’s Wonderlic score update

[SALADIN]

gbn report

QB’s Wonderlic score update… For those who keep track of these things, several sources are reporting that former Texas QB Vince Young actually scored a 7 on that Wonderlic test at the Scouting Combine in late February, and that he got 16 on a re-test. Early published reports had indicated that Young had scored a 6 on the original test. The low score led to a great deal of speculation as to whether Young would be able to pick up a complicated NFL offense. That in turn had Young’s status for the 2006 draft spinning all over the place, although he appears to have been able to right the ship to a large degree with a solid on-campus workout last week. Because of his unique attributes – Young is a terrific athlete with a very strong arm, but has questionable mechanics and limited pocket experience – Young remains perhaps the hardest player to grade for pro teams to come along in awhile.

[txlonghorn14]

i hate the wonderlic. it doesn't say jack shizzle about how a player is going to perform on the field. its like judging a person from their SAT score, it doesn't mean anything.

[Pokes28]

It obviously matters or they wouldn't require it.

David Harrell - Pokes
dwh

[txlonghorn14]

Originally Posted by Pokes28

It obviously matters or they wouldn't require it.

David Harrell - Pokes
dwh

i can see the wonderlic trying to be a gauge as to determine a player's ability to problem solve and think with common sense, but i really don't see where this test has any relevance to football. i understand that a player must make smart decisions on the field, but he's not going to be asked to solve a reading comprehension problem while completing a pass.

[burmafrd]

When you see some of the GREAT QB's like Marino that had lousy wonderlics, then someone like Q gets a high score, how can anyone really take is seriously?

[dwmyers]

1. Marino's Wonderlic, iirc, was about 2 points below the average for quarterbacks, which isn't lousy. The score of "19" I've seen bandied about for Marino I think is too low. The QB average is ca 23, anyway.

1a. Q: Has anyone published the standard error on that test? Without it, knowing the relative numbers are meaningless.

2. Wonderlics: Less than 10 is lousy. Guys with Wonderlics less than 10 that the Cowboys have drafted in the past five years never became starters, often despite exceptional physical skills. Of course, I'm talking about Daleroy Stewart and that USC linebacker who never amounted to squat. They were in the "less than 10" range.

3. Notes to think about: I've seen Akili Smith's Wonderlic recently reported as 15, to buttress accounts of how poor Wonderlics are correlated with failure. Thing is, Akili Smith went through a Wonderlic training course and his first reported Wonderlic was actually a 37. He retook the test and scored a 27. His high Wonderlics were part of the buzz that ended up with him drafted 3rd.

4. This reported 7/16 for VY is at least the fourth reported set of scores for Vince. The original was 6, the second was unknown first score, 16 second (ESPN #1), the third was 15 second score, unknown first (ESPN #2, I think Tom Shayes of Scouts Inc), and GBN now makes it the fourth score set with 7/16..

..this isn't news anymore, it's hype.

David.