Summer's Dallas mock draft (no trades)

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by nicodywill

woodley WILL NOT fall that far you can be certain of it nice try though

I thought so at 1st, after someone already brought it up, but looking at the DE prospects, I'm not so sure that your statement would be 100% accurate, here are some of the DEs that could be taken in the 1st, 2 rounds

Jamaal Anderson
Quentin Moses
Charles Johnson
Gaines Adams
Jarvis Moss
Woodley
Anthony Spencer
Dan Bazuin
Ikaika Alama-Francis
Victor Abiamiri

not all will be gone by the time we pick in the 2nd IMO so Woodley could very well be there

but I will admit that having Kyle Young, Paul Sialoi and Brian Leonard as low as I have them would be a stretch, but again, I warned you guys that my mock was very preliminary

[BigWillie]

Originally Posted by dallasfaniac

First to Merriman. He is a great player, which is why he was a first round pick as opposed to second day, but he didn't even show up against New England and other good teams.

9.5 of his sacks came against 3 of the bottom 5 teams in regards to sacks allowed. Oakland allowed 72 on the year; no surprise that Merriman got 3 on the game. Yeah, Ware faced Detroit who is also in the bottom 5 of the league and 'surprisingly' he put up 3 against them too. It's easy to rack up sacks against those teams.

I think if Ware would have gone to San Diego he puts up the same or better numbers as Merriman because he would not be the focus on defense like he was here.

The meniscus and 40 times ARE valid when added to recovering from a fractured hip. When evaluating a player, you have to look at all questions as a whole, not seperately so that you can write them off.

[View Full Quote]Looking at Brian Smith's stats for 2006 when he was leading the league, he had 7.5 in 8 games. That's like 13 for the year, 62 if he played the Lobo's each week.

Like I said, I like Smith, but fresh off a fractured hip I would need to see something leading up to the draft to show that he has recovered and retains his speed, otherwise I would have to spend a definite second day.

C'mon now, you want to cherry pick stats still? It's almost as valid an argument as saying Emmitt isn't as good a RB because he put up numbers against bad run defenses. Same thing for Troy, Michael and the gang.

Also, how can you compare one game (New England) to Merriman? It's the equivalent of talking about how Reggie White was shutdown by Erik Williams.

But again, why are you bringing up a knee injury from 2005 and correlating it to a hip injury in 2006? Especially when the meniscus injury did nothing to stop him from putting up great numbers from his DE position. The injuries have nothing to do with one another, and why it is even being brought up makes me wonder.

The hip injury didn't need rehab and didn't limit him after he had healed. Heck, it didn't even require surgery. He was on crutches for 8 weeks after the injury and was prepared to play in the Sun Bowl, but Gary Pinkel thought better of it since he had not practiced in 2 months and was coming off such a freak injury.

[dallasfaniac]

Originally Posted by BigWillie

C'mon now, you want to cherry pick stats still? It's almost as valid an argument as saying Emmitt isn't as good a RB because he put up numbers against bad run defenses. Same thing for Troy, Michael and the gang.

Also, how can you compare one game (New England) to Merriman? It's the equivalent of talking about how Reggie White was shutdown by Erik Williams.

But again, why are you bringing up a knee injury from 2005 and correlating it to a hip injury in 2006? Especially when the meniscus injury did nothing to stop him from putting up great numbers from his DE position. The injuries have nothing to do with one another, and why it is even being brought up makes me wonder.

[View Full Quote]The hip injury didn't need rehab and didn't limit him after he had healed. Heck, it didn't even require surgery. He was on crutches for 8 weeks after the injury and was prepared to play in the Sun Bowl, but Gary Pinkel thought better of it since he had not practiced in 2 months and was coming off such a freak injury.

With Emmitt we are talking about a career, not a single season. And I did mention 'other good teams'. I mean if I have to type out Baltimore and Kansas City I guess I will. No sacks in two games against Kansas City and getting bowled over by Todd Heap for the game winning score. But as long as he rang up 9.5 sacks against the worst passblocking teams in the NFL, rock on.

Analyzing the stats is very important. If it had been 13 sacks against the lobos and .5 the rest of the season would you think differently? If it had been 6 sacks the entire year, but 2 against Joe Thomas would that make a difference? Level of talent faced is a big factor.

Regarding injuries: If he had broken a finger, I wouldn't even mention it. But when it has to do with his legs, then any injury has potential to be big. He played an entire year on a torn meniscus before having surgery because he aggravated it. What kind of shape is it in now? Will he experience any lockage as many people do? Will he reaggravate it requiring cleanup? Will he experience any swelling taking the abuse of an NFL season? Will he experience pain and eventual arthritis? Awww who cares about his knee, I mean it's only his second injury to his right leg.

He was held out of the Sun Bowl because a bone scan revealed his hip still hadn't fully healed, not because he hadn't practiced.

I think we are diverging from the original post, which is my fault. I like Brian Smith, I really do. I even drafted him in my mock draft, I think in the 7th, which is admittedly too low. However, I maintain my stance that unless I see him in some football-like action (all-star game, combine, personal workouts, etc.) I wouldn't trust that he is fully healed and ready to go. There are many other DE/OLB that have much fewer question marks and similar stats. Until Brian shows he is back and not thinking about his injury, I wouldn't want to chance a first day pick.

[BigWillie]

You begin to backtrack in your argument, then you don't.

Brian Smith OVER HIS CAREER had 31.5 sacks, in which he was on pace to be the Big 12's all time sack leader. For a career, and for someone who can fit a 3-4 scheme, I would guess he is a good pass rusher.

But you are getting into things that you would have to question with every injury to every player who has had an injury. Everyone COULD suffer another injury similar to the one before, but if we worried about that, we would be drafting Carson Palmer's in the 7th round.

But this is a silly subject to pad our post count on, we can see in time about how Brian Smith develops.