Troy Smith

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

I cannot take seriously anyone who cannot see that Brees is a better pro QB then Vick.

I can not take anyone seriously in this forum that doesn't have an avatar.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by McCordsville Cowboy

I can not take anyone seriously in this forum that doesn't have an avatar.

McCord, sounds as if you had ample opportunity to watch Brees at length. Correct me if my view of Brees is inaccurate. During his college days at Purdue, was he fundementally prepared for the NFL passing game as a college player is likely to get? I mean, not saying the most ready player you've ever seen. Just asking if he was more ready then most or not? If I'm completely in left field, say it and I will respectfully abide. This is just how I remember Brees coming out in 01. And actually, I thought he might have played better in his Soph. and Jr. years then he did in his Sr. year.

[Bleu Star]

Doug Flutie: Height 5' 10"

Troy Smith: Height 6' 1"

Yeah... Flutie never enjoyed a career in the NFL.

Return to the NFL

[edit] Buffalo Bills

Doug Flutie became the Buffalo Bills' starting quarterback when the Bills started the 1998 season 1-3. In his first start as a Bill, he passed for two TDs and led a fourth-quarter comeback against the Indianapolis Colts on October 11, 1998. The following week, Flutie scored the winning touchdown against the Jacksonville Jaguars by rolling out on a naked bootleg and into the end zone on fourth-down play with 13 seconds left. The Bills' success continued with Flutie at the helm; his record as a starter that season was 8-3. The Bills were eliminated in the first round by the Dolphins, as fumbles and - some fans say - questionable officiating gave Flutie his first, and only, loss against both Jimmy Johnson and Dan Marino. Flutie was selected to play in the 1998 Pro Bowl.

[View Full Quote]Flutie led the Bills to a 10-5 record in 1999 but, in a controversial decision, was replaced by Rob Johnson for the playoffs by coach Wade Phillips, who later said he had permission from Bills owner Ralph Wilson to do so. The Bills lost 22-16 to the eventual AFC Champion Tennessee Titans in a game that has become known for the Music City Miracle, where the Titans scored on the final play of the game - a kickoff return following the Bills' apparent game-clinching field goal. After the season had ended, Flutie was named the Bills' backup and only played late in games or when Johnson was injured, which was often. In fact during the season, Flutie had a 4-1 record as a starter, in comparison to Johnson's 4-7. Following the season, Bills President Tom Donahoe and head coach Greg Williams decided to keep Johnson as the starter and cut Flutie.

[edit] San Diego Chargers

In 2001 Flutie signed with the San Diego Chargers, who had gone 1-15 in 2000. After opening 3-0, the Chargers slumped and were 4-2 going into Week 7, when Flutie's Chargers met Rob Johnson's Bills. Johnson took advantage of the weak Charger defense and passed for 310 yards with 1 TD and 1 interception, and he ran for 67 yards and 1 TD. (The Chargers are the only team against which Johnson has passed for 300 yards.) But Flutie prevailed as the new ex-Bill broke a sack attempt and ran 13 yards for the game-winning touchdown. San Diego finished 5-11 on the season, while the Bills finished 3-13. Flutie was Drew Brees' backup in 2002.

In 2003, Flutie replaced a struggling Brees when the Chargers were 1-7. The 41-year-old Flutie became the oldest player to score two rushing touchdowns in a game, the first player over 40 to accomplish that feat. He also became the oldest AFC Offensive Player of the Week, winning the award for the fourth time. Flutie's record as a starter that year was 2-3. Flutie was released from the Chargers on March 13, 2005.

[edit] New England Patriots

Flutie surprised many when he signed with the New England Patriots instead of the New York Giants. He became the backup behind Tom Brady and played several times at the end of games to take a few snaps. Flutie has a 37-28 record as an NFL starter, including a 22-9 record in home games.

Referring to his time in the Canadian Football League, television football commentator John Madden once said, "Inch for inch, Flutie in his prime was the best QB of his generation."

In a December 26, 2005 game against the New York Jets, Flutie was sent in late in the game. The Jets also sent in their back-up quarterback, Vinny Testaverde. This was the first time in NFL history that two quarterbacks over the age of 40 competed (Testaverde was 42, Flutie was 43). It is also worth noting that this was the final nationally televised Monday Night Football game on ABC before its move to ESPN.
Flutie's historic drop kick
Flutie's historic drop kick

In the Patriots' regular-season finale against the Miami Dolphins on January 1, 2006, Flutie successfully drop kicked a football for an extra point, something that had not been done in a regular-season NFL game since 1941. The ball went straight through the uprights for the extra point. It was Flutie's first kick attempt in the NFL. Patriots head coach and football historian Bill Belichick made comments that suggested that the play was a retirement present of sorts for his veteran quarterback, although Flutie had made no comment on whether or not 2005 would be his last season [9].

During the 2006 offseason, Flutie's agent, Kristen Kuliga, stated he was interested in returning to the Patriots for another season; as a result he was widely expected to return, despite his age. But on May 15, 2006, Flutie announced his decision to "hang up his helmet" at the age of 43 and retire [10].

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[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by Bleu Star

Doug Flutie: Height 5' 10"

Troy Smith: Height 6' 1"

Yeah... Flutie never enjoyed a career in the NFL.

I doubt very seriously if Smith is 6'1 but I could easily be wrong.

[Bleu Star]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

I doubt very seriously if Smith is 6'1 but I could easily be wrong.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player...layerId=133648

BSPN has been known to "stretch" the truth though so take it as you will.