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04-12-2007
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#91
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Penguinite
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006
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Originally Posted by tomson75
I'm sorry, but if we draft Nelson, I'll puke. If we go safety, the guy better have ALL of the tangibles needed to exceed there in the NFL. Don't get me wrong, I like Nelson, just not for us. He's not fast enough. He looked downright slow at the combine...real slow. I'd rather have a guy like *gulp* Meriweather.
I'll take the trade down over Nelson and Ginn.
What happened to us being high on Meachem?
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I'm simply passing along Matt Mosley's take.
He had a rather contentious departure from DMN and is working hard to get the Cowboy's draft angle covered. Obviously the DMN has a renowned draft guru in Goose on staff.
MY guys is Meachem.
Mosley is reporting Dallas loves Nelson and feels they can go WR in round 2.
My positions of need would go:
1. NT/DT -- pass rush type to spell Fergie.
2. WR -- prefer big guy with good hands and great route-running, speed desired but not required
3. MLB -- must be able to cover and read plays or need not apply
4. FS -- must be capable of man coverage, history as ballhawk or CB preferred.
5. CB -- ballhawk with great agility and quickness.
6. QB -- need 3rd Qb who cna be 2nd next season. early day 2 type would be perfect.
7. OL -- A big fatty to put on the PS would be nice. You can occasionally hit big on these guys.
8. OLB
But I still don't know what any team saw Thursday night that would have made them comfortable with waiting a round or two for the offensive lineman they wanted. ---Todd McShay
We just converted half our LB to DL. We have a 30m starting DL, it better be pretty friggin good.
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04-12-2007
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#92
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
Joined: | Jun 2004 |
Location: | NE Louisiana |
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Originally Posted by jackrussell
I agree DE....I said this in November...and am sticking to it....
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=135
I've seen people rank him as high as a top 10 selection..and now somehow he's falling. He can't fall in my eyes when I've felt all along he was a bottom of the 1st rounder. At least I'm consistant.
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I'm glad someone's sticking to their guns AND taking a realistic approach to Ginn's draftability. Each year, only a handful of players are locks to be a 'top five' or 'top ten', etc., pick. These are the Peyton Mannings and Reggie Bushes each draft. These guys will not drop because they have practically zero question marks against them. That's not the case with Ginn. He may go in the top 15. He may drop to 22nd or below. It's just not a certainty in his case.
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04-12-2007
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#93
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Pro-Quinn
Joined: | Nov 2006 |
Location: | Chillin on da 7t |
Posts: | 4,315 |
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Originally Posted by jterrell
I'm simply passing along Matt Mosley's take.
He had a rather contentious departure from DMN and is working hard to get the Cowboy's draft angle covered. Obviously the DMN has a renowned draft guru in Goose on staff.
MY guys is Meachem.
Mosley is reporting Dallas loves Nelson and feels they can go WR in round 2.
My positions of need would go:
1. NT/DT -- pass rush type to spell Fergie.
2. WR -- prefer big guy with good hands and great route-running, speed desired but not required
3. MLB -- must be able to cover and read plays or need not apply
4. FS -- must be capable of man coverage, history as ballhawk or CB preferred.
5. CB -- ballhawk with great agility and quickness.
6. QB -- need 3rd Qb who cna be 2nd next season. early day 2 type would be perfect.
7. OL -- A big fatty to put on the PS would be nice. You can occasionally hit big on these guys. [View Full Quote]8. OLB
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So if Demarcus gets seriously hurt, then what?
You rely on a potential first year full time starter (Carpenter)?
You rely on an aging DE/OLB coming off of an Achilles Tendon rupture?
Phillips could get creative and move Akin to OLB but I'd rather not see it come to that. If a pass rusher is best available, you take him.
I hope Spencer, Woodley, Moses, or Johnson is within reach at some point in the early second. Even Wade's creativity in his 3-4 will be exposed without a pass rush.
No thanks..
Bye Bradie.....
Jerry... Get a stud.
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04-12-2007
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#94
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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you really cannot draft on fear of someone getting hurt unless they have a clear record of injuries. Ware has been stout- Ellis only ever had one serious injury before. Carp is probably the guy that would step up if Ellis cannot come back.
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04-12-2007
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#95
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Lonely Stranger
Years Donated 2007, 2009, 2012
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Location: | Just passing thr |
Posts: | 22,441 |
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Originally Posted by burmafrd
you really cannot draft on fear of someone getting hurt unless they have a clear record of injuries. Ware has been stout- Ellis only ever had one serious injury before. Carp is probably the guy that would step up if Ellis cannot come back.
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Who are you talking too?
USE THE FREAKING QUOTE BUTTON!
Do you do this just to piss people off?

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Predicting the future can be very hard, mostly because it hasn’t happened yet."
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04-12-2007
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#96
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Southeast, Unite |
Posts: | 17,490 |
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Originally Posted by jackrussell
For those that say he doesn't go across the middle...
For those who say he has no agility......
For those who say he has no escapability....
For those who say he can't shake a tackle....
Behold...
http://www.buckeyecommentary.com/fil...e-is-fast.html
Edit- Aaron Ross- toast!
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That boy is just too fast!
I hope he wears the Star.
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04-12-2007
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#97
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Lonely Stranger
Years Donated 2007, 2009, 2012
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Location: | Just passing thr |
Posts: | 22,441 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyke1doe
That boy is just too fast!
I hope he wears the Star.
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I do too, but, I doubt that he will. I'm not sure the Boyz should pick him at 22 because there are other needs...but...?
I want a nasty NT or Guard...but, I don't follow the draft much, so I don't know who would fit MY NEEDS!
 As long as the Boyz go offense for a change, that will suit me just fine!
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Predicting the future can be very hard, mostly because it hasn’t happened yet."
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04-12-2007
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#98
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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Location: | WHITE SANDS NM |
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Ginn is pretty much a feast or famine guy as regards WR- he will either be VERY good or not good at all. To me it all comes down to his return skills- if he really is great then take him.
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04-12-2007
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#99
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Mr. Buckeye
Years Donated 2004, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Buckeye Nation |
Posts: | 12,746 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burmafrd
Ginn is pretty much a feast or famine guy as regards WR- he will either be VERY good or not good at all. To me it all comes down to his return skills- if he really is great then take him.
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Then take him.
It's not a question.
Look at the videos.
http://www.buckeyecommentary.com/fil...e-is-fast.html
His six touchdowns on combined kick returns tied an NCAA career record.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2833744
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