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Old 10-31-2004   #496
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We started the game 7 points in the hole.

We rode George and Witten on a 10 minute TD drive. George was there for another 6 Minute TD drive.

All that TOP kept our weak Defense at where its at its best - on the sideline. If IT WERE NOT OUR 3 to's. Its a blow out!
It was the Lions. Remember last year in Philly? We had 34 runs to 24 passes, won TOP 34-26, and lost the game 36-10.

I give Parcells credit for "taking the blame on himself" and "changing philosophies." If he's got any players believing the schedule doesn't matter, and we can win any game we play now, like he does you, then he accomplished something.
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It was the Lions. Remember last year in Philly? We had 34 runs to 24 passes, won TOP 34-26, and lost the game 36-10.

I give Parcells credit for "taking the blame on himself" and "changing philosophies." If he's got any players believing the schedule doesn't matter, and we can win any game we play now, like he does you, then he accomplished something.
Big conference game for us - We also beat that Philly team last year also.
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Where did I ever say we can win any game now. Thats you talking bro.
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We held Detroit to 14 points partly because we ran a lot (which we were able to do because we were winning), but mostly because they came into the game ranked DEAD LAST in offense and next to last in TOP.

Our D got off the field a lot quicker today than it did against the Packers, for example. The Lions' average possession lasted 2:08. Last week, the Packers' average possession lasted 3:20. That's got nothing to do with Eddie George.

Now, us holding the ball longer gives them fewer possessions, that's true. But when your average possession is 2:08 what difference does it make how many of them you have? It's basically the difference between punting 6 times and punting 7 times.
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We held Detroit to 14 points partly because we ran a lot (which we were able to do because we were winning), but mostly because they came into the game ranked DEAD LAST in offense and next to last in TOP.

Our D got off the field a lot quicker today than it did against the Packers, for example. The Lions' average possession lasted 2:08. Last week, the Packers' average possession lasted 3:20. That's got nothing to do with Eddie George.

Now, us holding the ball longer gives them fewer possessions, that's true. But when your average possession is 2:08 what difference does it make how many of them you have? It's basically the difference between punting 6 times and punting 7 times.
We were in the hole 7-0.

Ran a 15 play 83 yard drive = 9:55 of posession
Ran a 11 play 80 yard TD drive = 6:24 posession
Also had a 9 play = 4:42 FG drive

That kept our D rested and better prepared to not get demolished like previos months efforts.

Ball controll offense worked - our D was off the field. 39/21 TOP margin is as good as it gets.

Good team victory. BTW LIONS WERE #10 Run defense in NFL coming in. We pounded them and Vinny made plays.


If not for 3 picks its a blow out win.
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We held Detroit to 14 points partly because we ran a lot (which we were able to do because we were winning), but mostly because they came into the game ranked DEAD LAST in offense and next to last in TOP.

Our D got off the field a lot quicker today than it did against the Packers, for example. The Lions' average possession lasted 2:08. Last week, the Packers' average possession lasted 3:20. That's got nothing to do with Eddie George.

Now, us holding the ball longer gives them fewer possessions, that's true. But when your average possession is 2:08 what difference does it make how many of them you have? It's basically the difference between punting 6 times and punting 7 times.
Where do you get the 2:08 average posession? Is that Adams? Source? We had significantly higher TOP and I did a EG TOP analysis that had his drives in mid 3's. Todays had to be significantly higher.
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I got the 2:08 average possession from dividing their total TOP by their number of possessions.

Our D didn't need to be rested against the Lions. It gave up the second TD after a Cowboys' possession of 8:01, and it gave up the first TD on the game's first possession, after resting six days.

Edit: that 2:08 is the Lions' average possession, not ours, as you seem to be thinking. But that reminds me that Adam posted our average possession for the season, and our opponents'. I'd be willing to bet the difference was bigger between the Lions' 2:08 and what our opponents had been averaging against us, than the difference between what we'd been averaging on offense and what we had today.

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I got the 2:08 average possession from dividing their total TOP by their number of possessions.

Our D didn't need to be rested against the Lions. It gave up the second TD after a Cowboys' possession of 8:01, and it gave up the first TD on the game's first possession, after resting six days.

We had a much higher TOP with George and Parcells running it 41 times.

We had 39 TOP minutes.
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