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03-17-2008
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Originally Posted by ThreeSportStar80
Again, I'm stating MY opinion... I believe he's a better pro prospect because of his ability to run after the catch.
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I've got no problem with your opinion, I'm just making mine clear so when Jerry comes on Cowboy Zone looking for future draft scouts, maybe he'll notice me and pay me 2 mil a year. 
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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03-17-2008
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#32
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We got a hat. I want a ring.
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If he really runs near that fast and is there mid-round 2 then y eah I'd be thrilled if we grabbed him up.
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03-17-2008
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#33
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Originally Posted by silverbear
I've seen him play 2 or 3 games, and it's the same for me... I've even heard the announcers comment on it, leading me to believe it's a problem he's had in games I didn't see, too...
Beyond that, he's more or less a one season wonder, having put up just 65 catches in 22 games played in his first two seasons... when you read comments about him not being real physical, not being willing to work the middle of the field, and having a hard time getting off the jam, you start to think he sounds like a faster Brandon Lloyd...
Here's a sentence from NFL Draft Dog that sums him up nicely, IMO:
[View Full Quote]I was being playful when I said I have better hands than he has (though I do have really good hands, LOL), the point I was making is that although he's capable of making the highlight reel grab, he's way too prone to dropping what should be fairly easy catches... if he does that a time or two or three in preseason games, coaches are not going to give him much of a role in the offense come the regular season...
I just don't think that Mario will be a particularly good receiver in the NFL... he gets compared to Terry Glenn on the Cowboys boards, but his game is much more limited than Glenn's is, and his consistency catching the ball is nowhere near Terry's either...
He ranks somewhat lower on my draft boards than he does on most of the experts', I'll give you that...
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How is Manningham a one year wonder? He caught 27 passes, 6 of which went for tds, as a freshman. Not bad for a freshman.
As a sophomore he caught 38 balls for over 700 yrads with 9 tds in 9 games. He missed 4 games with a knee injury which he had surgery on and still came back to play in UM's final 3 games. If my math is right that projects to 60 rec. for over 1,000 yards and 13 tds.
His junior year he caught 72 passes for over 1100 yards and 12 more tds.
I wouldn't classify him as a one year wonder. That designation should go to Limas Sweed more than Manningham.
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03-17-2008
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#34
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Originally Posted by parcells316
How is Manningham a one year wonder? He caught 27 passes, 6 of which went for tds, as a freshman. Not bad for a freshman.
As a sophomore he caught 38 balls for over 700 yrads with 9 tds in 9 games. He missed 4 games with a knee injury which he had surgery on and still came back to play in UM's final 3 games. If my math is right that projects to 60 rec. for over 1,000 yards and 13 tds.
His junior year he caught 72 passes for over 1100 yards and 12 more tds.
I wouldn't classify him as a one year wonder. That designation should go to Limas Sweed more than Manningham.
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I was with you all the way to that point. Sweed's college career is pretty similar to Manningham's, I'd say.
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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03-17-2008
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#35
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Originally Posted by TheCount
I was with you all the way to that point. Sweed's college career is pretty similar to Manningham's, I'd say.
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Really? Well, Sweed played 4 years at UT and appeared in 40 career games. His numbers were 124 receptions for 1915 yards and 20 tds.
Manningham only played 3 years at UM, and appearing in 8 fewer games than Sweed did, caught 137 passes for 2,310 yardas and 27 tds. So , in basically 1 fewer season Manningham had more catches, yards, and tds than Sweed.
Sweed also never sniffed 1,000 yards in any season and will be 24 in 2008. Manningham turns 22 in May.
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03-17-2008
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#36
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Originally Posted by parcells316
Really? Well, Sweed played 4 years at UT and appeared in 40 career games. His numbers were 124 receptions for 1915 yards and 20 tds.
Manningham only played 3 years at UM, and appearing in 8 fewer games than Sweed did, caught 137 passes for 2,310 yardas and 27 tds. So , in basically 1 fewer season Manningham had more catches, yards, and tds than Sweed.
Sweed also never sniffed 1,000 yards in any season and will be 24 in 2008. Manningham turns 22 in May.
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I don't think stats tell the whole story there, but you're entitled to your opinion.
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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03-17-2008
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#37
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Originally Posted by ThatsmyQB
Read on footballs future he ran a a 4.39 at his pro day on a slow track!
If he's there middle round 2, I'd trade up to get him, I really like him and would be GREAT VALUE!
Especially if we go for a big W.R. like Hardy in round 1.
I'd like to get Romo a future #1 and a speed slot guy for the rest of his career NOW to grow together and not have to worry about W.R. for a long time!
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I was surpised he was timed at 4.6+ originally, but 4.39 is a head scratcher. I don't see how you can drop that much. In any case, I consider him very polished compared to msot of the others, but not enough to take before late Rd2. Seeing that we may grab a WR in Rd 1, I would not use that 2nd rd pick for another WR.
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03-17-2008
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#38
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Not mentioned in this awe inspiring debate is the fact that Manningham has some Antonio Bryant in him. He's a bit of a head case.
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03-18-2008
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#39
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We got a hat. I want a ring.
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Man that would be terrible. I'm really upset about the Bryant deal cause I thought the kid had plenty of talent, and upside, if he could have lost his attitude and stupid nature.
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03-18-2008
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#40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by parcells316
Really? Well, Sweed played 4 years at UT and appeared in 40 career games. His numbers were 124 receptions for 1915 yards and 20 tds.
Manningham only played 3 years at UM, and appearing in 8 fewer games than Sweed did, caught 137 passes for 2,310 yardas and 27 tds. So , in basically 1 fewer season Manningham had more catches, yards, and tds than Sweed.
Sweed also never sniffed 1,000 yards in any season and will be 24 in 2008. Manningham turns 22 in May.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCount
I don't think stats tell the whole story there, but you're entitled to your opinion.
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03-18-2008
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#41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DFWJC
I was surpised he was timed at 4.6+ originally.
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He didn't run 4.6+
He ran under 4.6 at combine!
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