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04-16-2008
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THE BIG DOG
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Originally Posted by speedkilz88
Does he really think Flowers is 5-11?
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Do you really think he isn't?
He got measured by someone at the combine or his pro day is all I'm saying.
This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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04-16-2008
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#17
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by big dog cowboy
Do you really think he isn't?
He got measured by someone at the combine or his pro day is all I'm saying.
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The guy that measured him got 5-9 3/4 I believe. 
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"The restructures are built in. Everybody’s making a big to do about this. I don’t know why."- Stephen Jones
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04-16-2008
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Originally Posted by aggiecurt05
To me, you have to ask what has happened between now and the season that hurt his stock. Early on many "experts" had him in the top 10, and VERY few thought he'd be around at 22. So... he has a small foot surgery that should be a non issue by training camp and he's dropping below 22? McGahee tore his ACL and MCL that would surely sideline him for much longer. Didn't he go right around 22? To me, this is an example of fans and "experts" creating news because we have nothing better to do.
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I agree, it could be an overreaction. Sometimes they do over-analyze this stuff. I think besides the toe issue, some are concerned with the system that Stewart played in. It's becoming a bit of an issue with scouting the backs lately because there are so many odd systems. 1st the teams were burned by system QBs (see Andre Ware, Klingler, Wuerffel) and now folks are wary of the RBs. It is not the same, but is worth a closer look. Recall that McGahee ran out of a pro set and was considered pretty much a sure thing before his injury.
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04-16-2008
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Salary Cap Analyst
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PFW has an interesting report on Stewart.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...wwhi041508.htm
From the article --
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There is a perception being propelled by the media and the teams that are chomping at the bit to draft Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart that the toe injury on which he had surgery could push him into the second round.
The way we hear it, this perception could not be any further from what will actually happen on Draft Day. Stewart, who finished the season playing with the injury, showed he was capable of clocking in the mid-4.4s at 235 pounds and is expected to be at full health in time for training camp, according to three team sources who have consulted with their team doctors. Of the elite backs in this draft, he is the thickest, strongest and best capable of running between the tackles.
Not only is he strong and compact, he also receives high marks from team evaluators for his ability to catch and block. PFW polled 10 teams regarding how they viewed this year’s elite running backs, including five that needed backs and five that did not. [View Full Quote]
Of the teams with needs at the position, a perhaps surprisingly unanimous five said Stewart would become the best pro from this year’s draft.
“He will wear (defenses) down,” said one veteran evaluator not in position to land Stewart. “He does everything well. He has good vision. He runs with his feet underneath him. He is incredibly strong. He’s the closest (player) in this draft to Ronnie Brown — and he is twice the competitor. Ronnie was not nearly as tough.”
Three of the five with no need for a running back — and thus less likely to have invested a lot of time studying talent that they did not view to be in consideration — rated Darren McFadden the most highly. Two others with no need regarded Stewart to be the best.
Possible landing spots for a back in the first round include the Raiders, Jets, Patriots, Bengals, Broncos, Panthers, Bears, Cardinals, Texans, Cowboys, Steelers and 49ers. However, the Broncos and Texans are not likely to invest heavily in the position given their zone-blocking schemes.
The surprise contender for Stewart’s services, league evaluators surmise, is New England, which holds the seventh overall pick and has lacked a true bell cow in the backfield since Corey Dillon retired.
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04-16-2008
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#20
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I've been hoping the team gets Stewart since the Browns finished 10-6 and mcfadden became a pipe dream.
He's the real deal
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04-16-2008
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Originally Posted by AdamJT13
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Wow. That was so good it could've been written by Stewart's agent....impressive stuff.
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04-16-2008
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#22
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I would like this draft.
Mr. Jones and CrazyCowboy--Training Camp 2004
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04-16-2008
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#23
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Lack of Big Plays
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Flowers at 28? theogt's head just exploded.
I like Stewart at 22, not liking Flowers though..
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