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Old 02-27-2005   #1
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Default Chiefs working on trade for Surtain

I would be OK with Dallas giving the Late #1 for Surtain. Maybe try to get Miami to throw in a 2nd day pick as well.


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Posted on Sun, Feb. 27, 2005

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Chiefs work to obtain Surtain

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Kansas City has emerged as the leading contender to trade for Dolphins cornerback Patrick Surtain with a deal by Wednesday being a ''50-50'' possibility, according to two NFL sources.

Chiefs general manager Carl Peterson spent much of Friday night negotiating with agent Gary Uberstine, who represents Surtain, on a contract extension for Surtain, who is entering the final year of his contract.

Peterson declined to discuss the matter, but he is also aware of what the Dolphins want as compensation. The Chiefs have the No. 15 overall pick in the first round but are unlikely to give up that high a pick.

More likely, the Chiefs might be willing to give up their second-round pick and a future mid-round pick as a package for Surtain. Kansas City is seeking to seriously upgrade its defense, particularly after AFC West foe Oakland agreed to trade for Pro Bowl receiver Randy Moss.

The Chiefs defensive coaches, such as coordinator Gunther Cunningham, have been studying and discussing Surtain for weeks, and they have been calling people in South Florida to ask about Surtain.

Uberstine could not be reached for comment. Surtain is hoping to get a signing bonus of between $12 million and $14 million as part of a contract extension.

''There are other teams who have expressed interest, a number of teams,'' a source said. ``But it's fair to say that the Chiefs have shown the strongest interest to this point.''

The Dolphins are hoping to trade Surtain before Wednesday so they can avoid having to pay him a $300,000 roster bonus, but that might just be a matter of convenience. The roster bonus won't stop the Dolphins from making a deal after that and won't force the deal to happen faster than necessary.

More important to the Dolphins is to clear most of the $8.4 million salary cap hit Surtain is scheduled to cost them for the 2005 season. The official league year begins Wednesday and that sum would inhibit the Dolphins from doing any extensive shopping in free agency.

The Dolphins can clear between $5.8 million and $6.1 million depending on when they deal Surtain. The hope was that the Dolphins would be able to get at least a low first-round pick for Surtain, but that might be generous at this point.
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I would be OK with Dallas giving the Late #1 for Surtain. Maybe try to get Miami to throw in a 2nd day pick as well.


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Chiefs work to obtain Surtain

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Kansas City has emerged as the leading contender to trade for Dolphins cornerback Patrick Surtain with a deal by Wednesday being a ''50-50'' possibility, according to two NFL sources.

Chiefs general manager Carl Peterson spent much of Friday night negotiating with agent Gary Uberstine, who represents Surtain, on a contract extension for Surtain, who is entering the final year of his contract.

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let him go,they need him ,we'll grab lucas[hopefully]
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I do not ever want to make a trade including a 1st for a player again then have to hand him a bundle of money.
But I still don't know what any team saw Thursday night that would have made them comfortable with waiting a round or two for the offensive lineman they wanted. ---Todd McShay
We just converted half our LB to DL. We have a 30m starting DL, it better be pretty friggin good.
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I do not ever want to make a trade including a 1st for a player again then have to hand him a bundle of money.
Me neither but I do think this guy is one of the top 3 CBs in the NFL.
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but why give up a first when there are several very good CB's on the market already? Is surtain that much better than Lucas or Law or Baxter? Is he better than Merriman and Lucas together? I can't understand for the life of me why we would trade a high pick for a CB when there several very good ones available on the market already.
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The only player I'd give a pick up for (and thats the #20) is John Abraham. Thats it. There are too many CB's available in free agency to trade a pick for one.
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The only player I'd give a pick up for (and thats the #20) is John Abraham. Thats it. There are too many CB's available in free agency to trade a pick for one.
i agree
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I would be OK with Dallas giving the Late #1 for Surtain. Maybe try to get Miami to throw in a 2nd day pick as well.
I don't want to give up any of our first 3 picks to trade for a CB. There are too many good CB in FA out there to be giving up our picks for one.
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I'd draft a cb in round 1 before I'd give up the pick for a veteran.
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