Who plays DE if we stay in 4-3? - Dallas Cowboys Forum

RxMan · 03-02-2005

I am very happy with the Ferguson signing. I am still not sold on a permanent move to the 3-4 though. If we stay 4-3 then who plays DE opposite Ellis? Most of the top rated DEs in this years draft are considered tweeners and not suitable for every down 4-3 play.

On a side note. What's the deal with Jason Tuck from Notre Dame? Can this guy play?

blindzebra · 03-02-2005

As of right now, we don't have a starter. Coleman is the likely guy with Ogbogu and Thornton on passing downs if we stand pat.

We won't stand pat, though.

PullMyFinger · 03-02-2005

Denver just released some guy the other day (forgot his name) that might be an option, he did pretty good last year. 10 1/2 sacks.

SuspectCorner · 03-02-2005

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Originally Posted by RxMan

I am very happy with the Ferguson signing. I am still not sold on a permanent move to the 3-4 though. If we stay 4-3 then who plays DE opposite Ellis? Most of the top rated DEs in this years draft are considered tweeners and not suitable for every down 4-3 play.

On a side note. What's the deal with Jason Tuck from Notre Dame? Can this guy play?

i like justin tuck and think we could nab him with our 2nd-rounder. he's 6-5 and about 260. very quick.

zorg222 · 03-02-2005

I think the 3-4 is almost a sure thing. I also like Justin Tuck, but I don't want to take him any earlier than the 2nd round. If we don't move to the 3-4(even though I'm pretty sure it will happen) then Coleman would be a good answer.

conner01 · 03-02-2005

merriman or spears

SuspectCorner · 03-02-2005

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Originally Posted by zorg222

I think the 3-4 is almost a sure thing. I also like Justin Tuck, but I don't want to take him any earlier than the 2nd round. If we don't move to the 3-4(even though I'm pretty sure it will happen) then Coleman would be a good answer.

if you think 3-4 is almost a sure thing then tuck is NOT your man. he is a 4-3 end if i ever saw one.

hockix · 03-02-2005

I'd like to get Hayward (maybe wrong spelling) from Denver.
And draft Merriman.

RxMan · 03-02-2005

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Originally Posted by tothewhipbill

if you think 3-4 is almost a sure thing then tuck is NOT your man. he is a 4-3 end if i ever saw one.

"The biggest flaw in Tuck’s game is the question around his size. He is the classic tweener at the next level. He is slightly undersized as a 4-3 DE, and that causes some questions about where he should go in the draft. If he’s not going to be an every down player, a team is not going to waste a Top 20 pick on him."

"Justin Tuck is going to be a big time pass rusher in the NFL. There are people that think he can’t handle the beating of playing a 4-3 DE spot because of his lack of bulk, but I believe he is such a standout pass rusher, teams will be able to live with him being taken out of some running plays at times."

Aikmaniac · 03-02-2005

Simeon Rice

sorry...I'm dreaming.

SuspectCorner · 03-02-2005

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Originally Posted by RxMan

"The biggest flaw in Tuck’s game is the question around his size. He is the classic tweener at the next level. He is slightly undersized as a 4-3 DE, and that causes some questions about where he should go in the draft. If he’s not going to be an every down player, a team is not going to waste a Top 20 pick on him."

"Justin Tuck is going to be a big time pass rusher in the NFL. There are people that think he can’t handle the beating of playing a 4-3 DE spot because of his lack of bulk, but I believe he is such a standout pass rusher, teams will be able to live with him being taken out of some running plays at times."

tuck is an underclassman - i'd think it's a safe bet he will add a few pounds in the weight room over the next year or two.

Woods · 03-02-2005

I almost think we have to get a DE in FA as well.

I don't think we can count on Coleman or Ogobu to start.

As for the Draft, if we are still running the 4-3 as the base this year, Spears probably makes the most sense in that he can play multiple positions on the DL, and he can play in the 3-4 later on and in spot duty this year as well.

5mics · 03-02-2005

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Originally Posted by RxMan

I am very happy with the Ferguson signing. I am still not sold on a permanent move to the 3-4 though. If we stay 4-3 then who plays DE opposite Ellis? Most of the top rated DEs in this years draft are considered tweeners and not suitable for every down 4-3 play.

On a side note. What's the deal with Jason Tuck from Notre Dame? Can this guy play?

I too prefer we stay w/ the 4-3 (especially w/ the signing of Ferguson) and morph into a 3-4 as a change of pace. Carlos Hall-DE is someone I want us to take a look at for DE...

Justin Tuck = Jason Taylor??? Taylor sure plays well as an "undersized" DE. I sure hope the silly GMs pass on Tuck becuz of the size issue and he drops to us in the second round.....