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Old 04-25-2004   #91
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I don't. The reason for my original post was that NumOneQB said Dallas traded one pick to the Bills and only received two picks in return - that's just wrong, and I called him on it.


You may be right, but we'll only know for sure after he actually takes the field. This wasn't a particularly outstanding RB class - I hate to invoke Mickey Spagnola, but if Steven Jackson and Kevin Jones were sure-fire picks there is absolutely no way they would have fallen into the bottom half of the first round. Think about it - we weren't the only team with a need at RB to pass on them. Why is that?


No matter how you slice it, Julius Jones is an upgrade over Troy Hambrick. Then we upgraded the offensive line with Rogers and Peterman. All in all, not too shabby in my book.


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I think the reason why Jackson and Jones were available late in the first round is because this was a very strong and deep draft. Many analysts felt that any of the first 12 picks could have legitimately been selected first overall. I don't think it says anytting of their ability. And second, I don't know that Julius Jones was Parcell's top choice. It's easy to say that now but reports said that Parcells was vying for Steven Jackson and Kevin Jones. I'm not so sure that Julius Jones was the player Parcells wanted all along. Although Parcells has complimented Jones as our first selection, he never made any claim that he was the player they had ranked #1 on their draft board. I don't believe that.
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I think the reason why Jackson and Jones were available late in the first round is because this was a very strong and deep draft. Many analysts felt that any of the first 12 picks could have legitimately been selected first overall. I don't think it says anytting of their ability. And second, I don't know that Julius Jones was Parcell's top choice. It's easy to say that now but reports said that Parcells was vying for Steven Jackson and Kevin Jones. I'm not so sure that Julius Jones was the player Parcells wanted all along. Although Parcells has complimented Jones as our first selection, he never made any claim that he was the player they had ranked #1 on their draft board. I don't believe that.

Any of the TOP 6 guys could have gone #1 overall. But, not the TOP 12. And the reason that Jackson and Jones slipped, is because ALL have real question marks about their game. They were the best of a deep, but VERY unspectacular RB class. This is a RB class that lacks a standout RB, but is very deep with QUALITY RB's. This draft is easily 6 or 8 deep, when it comes to potential starting RB's, this year or next. But, it lacks a Ricky Williams or LT.
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I think the reason why Jackson and Jones were available late in the first round is because this was a very strong and deep draft. Many analysts felt that any of the first 12 picks could have legitimately been selected first overall. I don't think it says anytting of their ability. And second, I don't know that Julius Jones was Parcell's top choice. It's easy to say that now but reports said that Parcells was vying for Steven Jackson and Kevin Jones. I'm not so sure that Julius Jones was the player Parcells wanted all along. Although Parcells has complimented Jones as our first selection, he never made any claim that he was the player they had ranked #1 on their draft board. I don't believe that.
I didn't say Julius Jones was #1 on their draft board - I said that he was the RB Parcells wanted. If Shawn Andrews had fallen to #22 we probably would have stayed there and picked him, then taken JJ in the 2nd round with our 52rd pick.

If Jackson or Jones was the RB Parcells coveted, then why didn't we trade down four or five spots instead of twenty? If the Bills offer was the best we got, why didn't we just say no and draft Jackson? Or at least trade back up into the 1st round, because Parcells and Jerrah had to know that neither back would be there at 52.

As for there being so many great picks at the top - the top 12 to 15 are always considered blue chip prospects in every draft. This still doesn't explain why teams like Chicago, Denver, Philadelphia, and Tennessee passed on them. If Jackson and Jones were blue chip prospects, they would have been taken along with the other 12 potential first overall picks.

Just admit you had a man-crush on Jackson and you're pissed we didn't take him. It happens, I'm sorry. But we'll be okay.
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