Eagles turning into Team Turmoil

[dwmyers]

Originally Posted by TheSkaven

It's not sour grapes, but we can agree to disagree. This is the quarterback who is responsible for the term "worm balls". He's horribly inaccurate and makes poor decisions. Yes, his numbers were very good this past year, and I hope that Owens got all the gift baskets. It's clear to me, at least, that Owens made McNabb look very good this past year, just as we saw Garcia fall on his face without him.

Outside of T.O. this year, can you name any Eagles wide receiver over the past few years that are better than Key or Glenn? McNabb hasn't really had much talent to throw to. For the most part, it isn't a case of McNabb throwing a lot of crummy balls to good-to-excellent receivers and then T.O. making all the difference in the world. It's more McNabb throwing to guys who resemble the Bad New Bears and then suddenly having an excellent receiver to throw to for once.

[lspain1]

Originally Posted by cowboyfreak

I think the three-in-a-row SB losses
not quite...

Oops....Sorry
I guess the better phrase would have been
three-in-a-row near misses...

or maybe

McNabb and T.O. are nearly misses

[BrAinPaiNt]

Originally Posted by Wolverine

I totally agree with Mitchell on how McNabb is not as good as everyone thinks he is. McNabb is overrated.

You totally agree with mitchell....BIG SHOCKER ....Not

[Jarv]

Originally Posted by TheSkaven

It's not sour grapes, but we can agree to disagree. This is the quarterback who is responsible for the term "worm balls". He's horribly inaccurate and makes poor decisions. Yes, his numbers were very good this past year, and I hope that Owens got all the gift baskets. It's clear to me, at least, that Owens made McNabb look very good this past year, just as we saw Garcia fall on his face without him.

McNabb's biggest asset is his feet, just like Vick. But the inaccuracy kills you in the end, and as we'll never forget, so does being out of shape in the Superbowl. Here in Philly, he'll never outlive that final drive and not running the no-huddle offense.

Did you hear that somewhere. I was surprised they didn't run the no-huddle offense. Is there a rumor down in Philly that they didn't run it because McNabb was tired ?

2000's Eagles = 70's Vikings and the 90's Bills....

[adbutcher]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

I'm so tired of hearing fans, especially Cowboy fans, talk about how overrated McNabb is. Bullocks. McNabb is a franchise, Pro Bowl QB who has made that team competitive for years. He isn't the best QB in the league, and not a HOFer, but he is still a terrific player.

A Cowboys fan calling McNabb overrated is like an Eagles fan calling Witten or Glover overrated. Sour grapes.

Ditto.

[Alexander]

With all the excessive and premature renditions of "Taps" being played for the Eagles, it is important to note they made and choked in three consecutive NFC championships without Terrell Owens.

They can easily do that again.

[AJM1613]

Originally Posted by TheSkaven

It's not sour grapes, but we can agree to disagree. This is the quarterback who is responsible for the term "worm balls". He's horribly inaccurate and makes poor decisions. Yes, his numbers were very good this past year, and I hope that Owens got all the gift baskets. It's clear to me, at least, that Owens made McNabb look very good this past year, just as we saw Garcia fall on his face without him.

McNabb's biggest asset is his feet, just like Vick. But the inaccuracy kills you in the end, and as we'll never forget, so does being out of shape in the Superbowl. Here in Philly, he'll never outlive that final drive and not running the no-huddle offense.

Garcia didn't exactly fall on his face without Owens, he fell on his face because he had to play for one of the worst coaches in NFL history with a terrible offensive line that spent most of their time blaming each other for the lack of protection.

So because Marvin Harrison is a better receiver than Owens (which he is), Reggie Wayne is a better receiver than Pinkston, Brandon Stokley is a better receiver than Mitchell, Marcus Pollard is a better tight end than Lewis, Tarik Glenn is a better tackle than Thomas (at protecting the quarterback), Rick DeMulling is a better guard than Hicks, Ryan Diem is a better tackle than Runyan, and Edgerrin James is a better runningback than Westbrook that must mean Manning is even worse than McNabb, right? I guess they should put an asterisk next to Manning's touchdown record. And Culpepper also must be garbage because Moss is better than Owens, Nate Burleson is better than Pinkston, Robinson is better than Mitchell...

McNabb is not accurate, it's his biggest flaw, just like Manning and Brady can't run, Culpepper fumbles, and Vick can't throw. McNabb had a 64% completion rate last season and only eight interceptions. The last twelve games of 2003, every game after week six, McNabb had a 62% completion rate and only two interceptions. In the two playoff games without Owens he had a 64.4 completion percentage and zero interceptions.

I don't know what happened to McNabb or Reid at the end of the Super Bowl, all I know is that there is no way in hell we would have won the game even if they were able to run a play every five seconds. I've watched the end of every close Patriots game since Belichick because the head coach, and the only game they lost was against Miami where Brady just tossed up a duck from his back about five feet for the interception (how's that for a good decision maker?).

[Everlastingxxx]

Top 3 joyous moments i look foward to:

1. Watching my daughter graduate college.
2. Watching the Cowboy win a 6th Super Bowl.
3. Watching the Eagles fall apart.

Nice to see the 3rd one happening.

[Waffle]

I'm no Eagle defender by any means, but I think the "McNabb is overrated" stuff is a little silly.

Who's overrating him? Was he voted the NFL MVP last season? What media members are claiming McNabb is better than Manning or Brady? Or is it that his $112 Million Dollar Contract is a problem? Evidently, the Eagles management felt he was worth the money, and they aren't known for just throwing money at players like the Redskins. I just don't see anyone "overrating" him.

He is what he is...a Pro-Bowl/All-Pro QB who has led his team to multiple NFC Championship games and a Super Bowl. What's wrong with that? Sure, they lost most of those games, but last I checked, he wasn't the only guy on the team.

Face it...Philly was an NFC East doormat until McNabb arrived. And he's made the Cowboys look downright silly in several games since he's been there. Remember that OT game back in 2000 when he basically ran it down the field himself in the extra session to put them in FG range? Or 2001, when McNabb made Pinkston and James Thrash look like a couple of T.O.s? Do I even need to mention the 14 second scramble and completion to Mitchell last year on Monday night?

If you want to rag on an Eagle...T.O. is your man.

[Hoov]

AJM, your right bout McNabb doesn't throw many interceptions. if he's pressured or gets knocked around a bit he starts to throw some of those low passes. i would say its true he hasnt had a lot of talent at wr to work with, and he can make things happen by scrambling when he needs to. i would say mcnabb is a good quarterback and a good fit for the eagles offense. when the eagles had staley and westbrook, they had a good running game but their wr were not good at all. then they get TO but let staley go so they had a passing game but not a great ground game. they really havent been a balanced team IMO, so they have been good enough to win in a league that is mediocre but not a complete enough team to win against the best. im not sure i would put that SB loss on mcnabb, seemed to me that the eagles were outcoached, and most of the game went the way the patriots wanted it to.

[keds]

If you look at the Eagles the last couple of years they have been heads above the NFC east in the trenches. They don't holdthat great of an advanatge over the NFC east in the skill positions anymore but a combination of line play and coaching has set them apart and will continue to until the other teams upgrade their lines.