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04-28-2011
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#61
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Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer
Mmmmmmm cheeese.
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Wasn't it Mosley that was saying Tyron Smith wasn't going to happen?
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04-28-2011
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#62
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Originally Posted by Cowboys22
Why did the phone ring for the skins? I would have done a 9 for 16 and 49 and I think most would to.
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eh...when the jags called them?
I turned to speak to God, About the world's despair; But to make bad matters worse, I found God wasn't there.
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04-28-2011
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#63
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No need to gamble moving down when the guy you want, who is also very high on the draft board and fills a huge need, is staring you in the face. You make the pick. Good job.
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04-28-2011
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#64
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Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer
Could it be because we have a guy named Tony Romo and the Skins have a guy named Rex.. uh, Rex something?
Hmm.. think about it.
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I think you should rethink that. The Jags should have called us with the same deal to get ahead of the skins. Maybe they did and Jerry shot it down but if they waited until the skins were on the board, they risk the skins not accepting any trade and taking Gabbert. By attempting to get ahead of them and with a team not needing a QB, they take that risk out of the equation. I have to think Jerry turned them down.
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04-28-2011
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#65
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Originally Posted by realtick
Really, we're 12 picks in and this Draft has already been "notoriously" considered a bad draft?
Actually, most of the pundits agree it's one of the all-time deepest drafts in terms of DL talent.
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Strong in terms of DL talent. Weak at most positions.
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04-28-2011
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#66
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Quote:
Originally Posted by realtick
Wasn't it Mosley that was saying Tyron Smith wasn't going to happen?
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Yeah, he was the guy.
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04-28-2011
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#67
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The longer Cam Jordan and Robert Quinn don't get drafted, the more a 2nd and 3rd for them seems OK by me.
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04-28-2011
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#68
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Originally Posted by fishspill
The longer Cam Jordan and Robert Quinn don't get drafted, the more a 2nd and 3rd for them seems OK by me.
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I was just thinking that, although I don't think New England will let that happen.
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04-28-2011
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#69
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Originally Posted by fishspill
The longer Cam Jordan and Robert Quinn don't get drafted, the more a 2nd and 3rd for them seems OK by me.
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Yeah, nevermind.
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04-28-2011
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#70
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Cab to Kinko's
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Originally Posted by Cowboys22
I think you should rethink that. The Jags should have called us with the same deal to get ahead of the skins. Maybe they did and Jerry shot it down but if they waited until the skins were on the board, they risk the skins not accepting any trade and taking Gabbert. By attempting to get ahead of them and with a team not needing a QB, they take that risk out of the equation. I have to think Jerry turned them down.
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Nah.. im pretty sure i know what i saw. Were you watching the war room? Did you see any calls come in? The Cowboys waited.. nothing came.
Im sure the Jags had pre draft discussions about trades with a couple teams, and they knew we obviously weren't in the market for one so they made the deal with the Skins.
Another idea is that they may have called and didn't offer us a deal we liked. Either way, staying put and making our choice was the right call imo. If you don't get an offer you like and you have a guy you really want.. you take them and don't screw around.
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04-28-2011
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#71
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Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer
Nah.. im pretty sure i know what i saw. Were you watching the war room? Did you see any calls come in? The Cowboys waited.. nothing came.
Im sure the Jags had pre draft discussions about trades with a couple teams, and they knew we obviously weren't in the market for one so they made the deal with the Skins.
Another idea is that they may have called and didn't offer us a deal we liked. Either way, staying put and making our choice was the right call imo. If you don't get an offer you like and you have a guy you really want.. you take them and don't screw around.
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Exactly. If they know we aren't touching a guy they want, they will get in front of what teams do. So they move up to the next team. People act like that just because another team moved back then everyobe had the same offer.
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04-28-2011
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#72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer
Nah.. im pretty sure i know what i saw. Were you watching the war room? Did you see any calls come in? The Cowboys waited.. nothing came.
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It looked like Stephen Jones was on the phone at one point with less then 4 minutes left. Hard to say for sure but it looked like right after Dallas submitted their pick that Jerry mouthed "it just wasn't enough" before the NFL network cut away from the Cowboys war room. Could have been a possible reference to a trade offer.
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04-28-2011
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#73
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Cab to Kinko's
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Originally Posted by Star Guard_31
It looked like Stephen Jones was on the phone at one point with less then 4 minutes left. Hard to say for sure but it looked like right after Dallas submitted their pick that Jerry mouthed "it just wasn't enough" before the NFL network cut away from the Cowboys war room. Could have been a possible reference to a trade offer.
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Apparently they got an offer from the jags for the 16 and 49. I would be inclined to agree with Jones and Co. If they had Smith as the 5th rated player on the board, 16 and 49 isn't enough. Better to just take the guy who has All Pro potential and your biggest position of need.
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04-28-2011
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#74
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Outlaw Heroes
Strong in terms of DL talent. Weak at most positions.
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I think we gotta wait just alittle while before we analyze this draft. 1999, was supposed to be one of the great QB drafts (Couch, Akili Smith, McNabb, Culpepper and Cade McNown in the 1st round) and it turned out to be a dud in general.
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04-28-2011
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#75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by realtick
Wasn't it Mosley that was saying Tyron Smith wasn't going to happen?
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He virtually guaranteed it wouldnt happen the other day.
FWST did the same thing right before the draft too, they said they'd def take Costanzo over Smith.
I'd say whoever their "source" was played them like a deck of cards.
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