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Old 01-18-2012   #16
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Finally, ]South Carolina DT Travian Robertson has shown flashes all week of creating havoc behind the line of scrimmage. He possesses a good first step, can make himself small when shooting gaps and fight his way through contact. He also displays the ability to gain leverage and get his hands inside on contact when working the bull rush. However, he’s limited laterally, doesn’t use his hands well to shed when engaged and looks more like a one-gap type only who is worth a flyer late on day three

I really like this kid
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Old 01-18-2012   #17
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What so you don't Perry or Ingram are no better than Spencer ?

boy I do
Perry is a pure speed edge pass rusher. I question his ability to hold the edge and stay strong against the run. Unless hes adding bulk, I think he may get engulfed by a lot of RT's in the NFL when gong 1 on 1.

Ingram has the opposite problem. Hes pretty huge for the position at 275. I question his ability to play in space against NFL RB's and TE's. However, if he shows up at the combine 10lbs lighter and shows fluid hips and good agility I would definitely consider him.

People see Spencer's lack of sacks and automatically assume hes bad. There is a lot more to the position that just sacks. Spencer is great against the run and does a pretty good job covering the flat and dropping back. These things go very overlooked.

This is why Im an advocate of keeping Spencer and drafting a pass rushing specialist for obvious passing downs and late in games when we are up. If we can keep Spencer and get a McClellin/Irvin/Lindsay in the 3rd or 4th round I think it would definitely improve our D.
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Perry is a pure speed edge pass rusher. I question his ability to hold the edge and stay strong against the run. Unless hes adding bulk, I think he may get engulfed by a lot of RT's in the NFL when gong 1 on 1.

Ingram has the opposite problem. Hes pretty huge for the position at 275. I question his ability to play in space against NFL RB's and TE's. However, if he shows up at the combine 10lbs lighter and shows fluid hips and good agility I would definitely consider him.

People see Spencer's lack of sacks and automatically assume hes bad. There is a lot more to the position that just sacks. Spencer is great against the run and does a pretty good job covering the flat and dropping back. These things go very overlooked.

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Thanks for answering that . You worded it better than I could have .
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Old 01-18-2012   #19
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oh I like Specner - I not near tha hater as most people

but Lindsay has a bad week at the shine bowl not a big fan of Lindsay

and if we can get a good pass rusher then I think we have to take him

even Kiper has Ingram going at 12 to the Seahawks

he might be DE in a 4-3

but I have him loose like 15 lbs I take him

well have to wait an see
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