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02-21-2012
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Newo
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Originally Posted by xwalker
6th Cliff Harris CB Has major off the field issues. If team feels his talent is worth the gamble, then he could be a MAJOR steal. Very good player who would have went in the early rounds if it weren't for his off the field issues
This could be the steal of the draft. I think he has similiar talent to Janoris Jenkins. I'm not sure why he dropped off the map due to speeding tickets and Jenkins is still projected to go in the 1st.
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Cliff was kicked off for Marijuana possession as well as the traffic tickets. In 2010 though he had a great year with 4-5 picks, 4 punt return tds. I'd definitely be interested in him, but that is assuming we don't draft Jenkins. I don't mind taking a shot on a questionable character guy( especially one who's dad played for us), but I don't want two at the same position.
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02-21-2012
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#17
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Muhast
Cliff was kicked off for Marijuana possession as well as the traffic tickets. In 2010 though he had a great year with 4-5 picks, 4 punt return tds. I'd definitely be interested in him, but that is assuming we don't draft Jenkins. I don't mind taking a shot on a questionable character guy( especially one who's dad played for us), but I don't want two at the same position.
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I hope you're joking about his dad.
Taking a questional character guy in the late rounds is much better, IMO, than taking one in the 1st. High draft picks know that the team is unlikely to cut them whereas late picks usually know they are on thin ice.
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02-21-2012
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#18
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Newo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xwalker
I hope you're joking about his dad.
Taking a questional character guy in the late rounds is much better, IMO, than taking one in the 1st. High draft picks know that the team is unlikely to cut them whereas late picks usually know they are on thin ice.
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No I'm not joking about his dad. I think it would be really cool to watch your son play for the same team thar you did. it would be a great story.
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02-22-2012
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#19
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Muhast
No I'm not joking about his dad. I think it would be really cool to watch your son play for the same team thar you did. it would be a great story.
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Cliff Harris that played for the Cowboys:
Cliff Harris that will be in the 2012 draft:

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02-22-2012
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#20
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xwalker
Cliff Harris that played for the Cowboys:
Cliff Harris that will be in the 2012 draft:

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father and son 
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02-22-2012
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#21
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Newo
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
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Originally Posted by visionary
father and son 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xwalker
Cliff Harris that played for the Cowboys:
Cliff Harris that will be in the 2012 draft:

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Lol I apologize. I wasn't alive when Cliff Harris played. I read a few articles referring to how Cliff Harris(Oregon) dad was on his side and still supportive through everything going on(the links were actually posted here on CZ), so due to the fact that it was on this very website I put two and two together and assumed Cliff Harris from the Cowboys was Cliff Harris from Oregons dad. (Please keep in mind, I have never seen the Cowboys Cliff Harris before). I know his name, but that's about as far as it goes.
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02-22-2012
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Muhast
Lol I apologize. I wasn't alive when Cliff Harris played. I read a few articles referring to how Cliff Harris(Oregon) dad was on his side and still supportive through everything going on(the links were actually posted here on CZ), so due to the fact that it was on this very website I put two and two together and assumed Cliff Harris from the Cowboys was Cliff Harris from Oregons dad. (Please keep in mind, I have never seen the Cowboys Cliff Harris before). I know his name, but that's about as far as it goes.
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dont sweat it
my comments were in jest and i am sure his were too
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02-22-2012
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#23
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhast
Lol I apologize. I wasn't alive when Cliff Harris played. I read a few articles referring to how Cliff Harris(Oregon) dad was on his side and still supportive through everything going on(the links were actually posted here on CZ), so due to the fact that it was on this very website I put two and two together and assumed Cliff Harris from the Cowboys was Cliff Harris from Oregons dad. (Please keep in mind, I have never seen the Cowboys Cliff Harris before). I know his name, but that's about as far as it goes.
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Just joking with you a little. Hopefully, you got a little laugh out of it after seeing the photos.
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02-22-2012
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#24
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Newo
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xwalker
Just joking with you a little. Hopefully, you got a little laugh out of it after seeing the photos.
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Lol yea I thought it was a hilarious mistake. Kind of embarrassing but its okay
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02-23-2012
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#25
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Mr. Fixit
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If Cliff Harris was Captain Crash's son, he would not be such a *******. 
"Our guys are gonna be good, and we know it. So that ain't talkin'. That's just the (bleepin') way it is."
Rob Ryan, Dallas Cowboys DC
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02-23-2012
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#26
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman41
Franchise Spencer
Resign Fiammetta
Let Laurent Robinson go. (Wants too much money. Other options at much better value)
Sign Scott Chandler (Have him compete with Phillips for backup TE spot. Makes one less need in draft)
Sign Dan Morgan (Very talented MLB who can compete with Bruce Carter for starting spot)
Sign Eddie Royal (Very talented receiver. Very good return man as well. Fills two needs. Didn't have QB to get him ball, thats why his numbers were down. Had GREAT rookie year few years ago)
Sign Ben Grubbs (Gives us talented guard who can replace Kosier. Less money then Nicks. Nicks will probably be franchised anyway)
Sign Tracy Porter (Solid starter. Not top flight corner. But a playmaker on D which this team needs. A very solid starter opposite Mike Jenkins)
Draft
TRADE DOWN few spots pick up extra 3rd [View Full Quote]1st - Janoris Jenkins CB Excellent man cover guy. Very competitive. Extremely tough, and loves a challenge. Would fit Rob's system excellent if his behavior issues are a thing of the past
2nd - Fletcher Cox DE Don't think he will be here, but if he does fall this low he is EXCELLENT value. Many scouts feel he is most explosive, athletic DE outside of Coples in draft. Can play DT in 4-3 packages. Great pass rush potential
3rd - Bruce Irvin OLB Going to move up draft boards after combine. Already has put on 20 pounds since season ended. Extremely fast and explosive for linebacker. Can be groomed to take over after Spencer leaves next season
3rd - James Michael Johnson MLB Another guy who is going to move up draft boards fast. Cowboys already love him. Has a ton of potential to get better. Playing at small school is the only reason he isn't selected in first 2 rounds
4th - Phillip Blake C Another guy the cowboys are rumored to be interested in. Ranked around the 3rd best center in draft class. Big upgrade from Costa
5th Josh Chapman DT Extremely underrated. Did a lot more for Alabama's defense then got credited for. Played injured last season in college. Will take on two blockers consistently. If team stays in base 3-4, he can compete with Josh Brent and Sean Lissemore for starting Nose Tackle
5th (Compensatory) Chris Rainey WR/HB One of most electric, fastest guys in draft class. Can be a dynamic return guy. Similar to Percy Harvin, just smaller. Can be used in similar way Darren Sproles is used. Gives offense more speed
6th Cliff Harris CB Has major off the field issues. If team feels his talent is worth the gamble, then he could be a MAJOR steal. Very good player who would have went in the early rounds if it weren't for his off the field issues
7th Charles Mitchell S Don't know a lot about him, just feel they will draft someone to at least give Barry Church competition for the starting safety spot opposite of Sensabaugh
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I like most of what you have here. I am especially good with Grubbs, Chandler and Royal and even ok with letting Robinson walk as long as we pick up a replacement (Royal?). Lots of FA talent in WR so we may be able to get Laurent back when he finds he isn't going to get as much as he had hoped out there.
As far as the draft, I like Jenkins but I would be fine with picking up someone in the 2nd or 3rd for CB. I really like the Blake pick as I have heard folks on SiriusXM NFL radio (Ryan and Kirwan) praising him as a very solid pick for someone in the middle rounds. I think we need to grab a safety sooner (or FA). I am hearing some good things about Irvin now as well. Can't wait for the combine stuff to really get going so I can see these guys in action.
Ferris
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