Mark Barron a lock for top 16 - Kiper

[dwmyers]

Originally Posted by jblaze2004

i doubt barron makes it out of the top20. If we want him just pick him at 14. The heck with value and crap. If you think he can be a impact/probowl player just take him. Lets not get cute and end up with another special teams draft

I did a study last year, and I suggested the average error in determining the value of a draft pick is on the order of a round. Arguing about the difference between pick 15 and 20 is like worrying about a drop of water in the presence of a tidal wave.

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[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Beast_from_East

I just hate the idea of drafting a safety at 14 that is not considered "special".

Some consider him special.

Add that to the fact there isn't a comparable safety in the class and yeah it's probably a good bet he's going in the top 20.

[VICTOR710]

Originally Posted by DBOY3141

We have Orton.

We need to fix the defense. OL is serviceable. Defense is not.

Barron will be the pick at #14 and he will wear #24.

If only Barron would wear #28 , we good

[ABQcowboyJR]

Originally Posted by jblaze2004

not when the qb can just throw the ball up and his wr still catches the ball I remember this happening too many times, calvin johnson, victor cruz or nicks (with scandrick lost looking for the ball in the air). Lets draft a safety that can actually make a impact. Not just be solid. Its a process .

When it comes to victor cruz beating scandrick and Newman, that wasn't really on the safety. Megatron will make that play on Barron as well. Barron isn't coveted as an outstanding coverage safety. I think you need two very good coverage safeties in today's pass happy NFL. I'm all for taking a safety high and in the first round. I just don't see that guy this year.

[JohnsKey19]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Some consider him special.

Add that to the fact there isn't a comparable safety in the class and yeah it's probably a good bet he's going in the top 20.

One of the guys on NFL Network compared him to Ed Reed - maybe Casserly, i cant remember. They said coming out of college the two players are similar.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by JohnsKey19

One of the guys on NFL Network compared him to Ed Reed - maybe Casserly, i cant remember. They said coming out of college the two players are similar.

Yep. I've seen that comparison too. I don't know where he's gotten this "in the box" label.

[jblaze2004]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Yep. I've seen that comparison too. I don't know where he's gotten this "in the box" label.

idk but for some reason he reminds me more of sean taylor.

he played alot of man coverage it seems also. Almost like an extra cb, might mean he has coverage skills. Just watch the video. He was moved around alot. Kind of like Troy P of the steelers.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by Beast_from_East

I just hate the idea of drafting a safety at 14 that is not considered "special".

His intelligence and indicts are considered special, if that helps.

[CarlAllDay]

Originally Posted by jswalker1981

The issue with that is there is a significant drop in talent from Barron to Smith, not as much of a drop from Cox to Crick or Winn. You don't draft each round based on who is there at that moment, you draft based on who is available now AND later. DeCastro is a beast, but Zeitler isn't too far off either. So I'd rather have Barron and Zeitler than DeCastro and Smith.

Couldnt agree more!!

[Gaede]

Ok, I've been watching more on Barron. I've come around on him.

We need a guy with ball skills back there and Barron fits the bill. He's got great instincts.

The Ed Reed comparisons are a little crazy, but he definitely has potential to be a similar player.

[gimmesix]

Originally Posted by Gaede

Ok, I've been watching more on Barron. I've come around on him.

We need a guy with ball skills back there and Barron fits the bill. He's got great instincts.

The Ed Reed comparisons are a little crazy, but he definitely has potential to be a similar player.

I know there's a lot of smoke this time of year, but I'm biting on the Barron possibility because 1) we really didn't do much to address FS in free agency (just a cheap deal for a vet presence), 2) Dallas really seems to think the secondary was the main problem with the defense last year and 3) Garrett going to Alabama's pro day.

I don't get the feeling from everything I've read that Dallas is sold on addressing any position on offense with that first-round pick (but have a couple under consideration if the defensive players the Cowboys want are gone).

I can't knock the Barron pick if Dallas chooses to go that way although I do prefer DeCastro if he's there. And I'd be able to swallow it better if Dallas comes back with Konz, Zeitler or Silatolu in the second round (although I won't be surprised if that ends up being a defensive pick as well).

[AKATheRake]

Originally Posted by InmanRoshi

Hard to tell how effected he's been by injuries the last two years. A torn pec and a bilateral sports hernia sideline most players for the year.

The last time he was healthy for a full season he was a beast. 7 INTs. That's as many as Eric Berry ever had in a season in college, and just 1 short of Earl Thomas' 8 in 2008.