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Old 04-22-2012   #31
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So you are going to bring up a guy from 1997?

And ignore the recent success with the guys I mentioned? I am willing to guess the training staff and physicians we have now are probably not the same overall group that was around when LaFleur was drafted.

From an injury standpoint, the last guy that we whiffed on that I can recall was maybe Jason Williams, but before that the OT Jacob Rogers.

Of course, the bigger problem with Williams was he couldn't play.

I haven't heard one source indicate teams are red flagging Barron because of his injuries. He has shot up the charts, just the opposite of most players with injury concerns.
You have completely missed the point that was made. Not sure how else it can be explained. It is not about ONE injury, it is about a propensity to chronic injury. And LaFleur also did not get flagged for his injuries either.

And Jason Williams did not have a chronic injury, or any injury when he was drafted. Not sure why you even mention him.
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Old 04-23-2012   #32
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Meh he'll be fine... Woicik and the training staff will make sure of that.

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Old 04-23-2012   #33
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I'm still recovering from sports hernia surgery that was done Jan 14th of this year. It's very tough. I've broken bones, torn ligaments, fractured my skull, you name it.

The sports hernia recovery pain was the worst pain I've ever felt. The inguinal canal has a nerve that runs down to your testicles. Hopefully that paints the picture....

I'm not saying anything about Barron, just giving my experience. I've done tons of research and the reports and studies vary quite a bit. It's not just the soft tissue injury we have to deal with. It also nerve pain and damage that can remain til the day you die.

I strongly believe this is what has ultimately shortened Newman and McNabb's careers. I Don't know Enough about Barron's situation to give an opinion.
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Old 04-23-2012   #34
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Yeah. I know it's football and guys get hurt. However, I wouldn't minimize double hernia surgery as well as a torn pec before a guy has even played a down in the NFL. Newman's groin issues were pretty significant. A DB cuts and turns his hips a great deal which puts a lot of stress in that area. This is not some old fractured clavicle that has healed. I'm not sure how anyone could not be at least somewhat concerned over this.
Well said thanks for bringing this up.
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Old 04-23-2012   #35
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A chronic injury? Has he had multiple torn pecs? He had the surgery for the torn pec and then played a fantastic season. He had the hernia, played through it, had the surgery and by all accounts is having a good recovery. Just months after the surgery he put up numbers that were better than people expected him to put up even if 100%.

Does he have a propensity for muscle tears? Maybe. Maybe not. Some are going to use it a reason to justify not taking him despite the fact his on field play makes him worthy of the pick.

It's not that much different than down grading DeCastro because guard isn't a premium pick. We ignore the fact that his on field play makes him clearly the best prospect at his position and one of the best in the draft overall.
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