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Old 04-29-2012   #16
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Boykins has a propensity for concussions. He has had multiple concussions in college. I like Boykins too, but his medical history plus his lack of size (Cowboys want big press corners) did not make him a fit.


.....on espn and he also got his bell rung against MSU in the outback bowl. He's a helluva talent don't get me wrong but man he's small and this is a big man's game.

Speaking of small iggles, I'm still waiting for someone to catch DeSean Jackson JUST RIGHT. I have a gut feeling this is the year and it may be a cowboy: think Johnson or Carr......I'm telling you: he can run, but he can't hide: it's GONNA happen, and when it does he won't ever be a factor again.
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Old 04-29-2012   #17
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People are already whining about us having 4 talented CB's but we should take a 5th.

Trust me....with the QB's and WR's we face in our division and the way our secondar has gotten shredded the past few years, you want Claibornes and Carrs in coverage not a rookie 4th rounder with no experience.

What is more of a need S or CB at that point? Who has more upside Boykins or MJ?
Your first sentance made me stop reading right there.. the people that would "whine" about us having 4 talented CB's on the roster are people not worth listening to in the first place. That's step one.. not that we do have 4 talented CB's on the roster anyway though. Again, Boykin would be an instant upgrade over Scandrick and a great slot cover guy who could actually go step for step with some of the tiny little speed demons we have in our division like Cruz and D Jackson. We'll regret not taking him, im sure of that.
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No, and neither would Randy Moss.

However, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson and Wes Welker would be.

You can find plenty of top notch talent without them being an ***.
Bravo.
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Horse-pucky that Michael Irvin didn't have the right kind of mindset for *any* football team, btw.

I agree with the first two bullets on your list. Don't think the team was ever seriously in the market for a nose tackle or a massive DT. I'm not sure why that fantasy won't die, but I don't think we see it while Ratliff's taking snaps.
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No, and neither would Randy Moss.

However, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson and Wes Welker would be.

You can find plenty of top notch talent without them being an ***.
Don't you know that in the NFL, the bigger the ******* you are, the better the player?? Conversely, if you're one of those "good guys", you'll never amount to hammered crap...

I'm with you, AF, let's find good people who are good players... if you look hard enough, there are some of that type available every year...
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Brandon Boykin was there in the 4th round even and we passed on him. Not smart, imo.. especially with the division we play in.
Once we drafted Claiborne, the rest of us knew we were out of the cornerback business... as things stand now (for this season), the Boys have four nice corners in Carr, Claiborne, Jenkins and Scandrick... generally, when teams carry a 5th corner, it's a young, developmental type, and the Boys have a number of candidates for that job-- besides the players returning, the Mario Butlers and CJ Wilsons, you have Isaac Madison from Arkansas, Lionel Smith from Texas A&M and Troy Woolfolk from Michigan (though I have heard rumblings that he may be tried at free safety)...

I just don't see the pressing need to add Boykin, not with all the other issues the Cowboys have...
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Once we drafted Claiborne, the rest of us knew we were out of the cornerback business... as things stand now (for this season), the Boys have four nice corners in Carr, Claiborne, Jenkins and Scandrick... generally, when teams carry a 5th corner, it's a young, developmental type, and the Boys have a number of candidates for that job-- besides the players returning, the Mario Butlers and CJ Wilsons, you have Isaac Madison from Arkansas, Lionel Smith from Texas A&M and Troy Woolfolk from Michigan (though I have heard rumblings that he may be tried at free safety)...

I just don't see the pressing need to add Boykin, not with all the other issues the Cowboys have...
You don't draft for need if you want to be a successful team.. you take the BPA. Adding a guy who can actually man the slot position for us and play it well would have been more than good value in the 4th round, not to mention he has explosive ability in the return game. I just think its a huge miss that we will come to regret when we see him play very well for our most hated rival.
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Bravo.
Bravo?

So Michael Irvin was an ***?

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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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We were in position to take some of theese kind of players. I guess we were looking for the "right kind of guys " tell me in that mind set would Micheal Irvin be on this team?
  • no center taken
  • No pr/kr specialist don't want to see Dez or Mo on pr/kr
  • No massive DT maybe this is not Robs kind of scheme fit
Maybe it skould read things you wanted.
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We were in position to take some of theese kind of players. I guess we were looking for the "right kind of guys " tell me in that mind set would Micheal Irvin be on this team?
  • no center taken
  • No pr/kr specialist don't want to see Dez or Mo on pr/kr
  • No massive DT maybe this is not Robs kind of scheme fit

I don't know if Michael had off field problems in Miami. Of course back then it was easier to hide that kind of stuff.

But from a right kind of guy perspective, he was a hard worker, a leader and loved to play football. So yes he would be drafted if he played now.
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Michael Brewster

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...=2012&genpos=C

Tydreke Powell

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2012&genpos=dt
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Two undrafted FAs I think we missed out on are:

AL WR Maze and Pitt LB Brandon Lindsey
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