DMN: Race for No. 3 receiver: Kevin Ogletree and Cole Beasley shine

[Future]

Originally Posted by JeffInDC

To me, last night showed me that the 3, 4, & 5 WR are (in order): Ogletree, Beasley, & Harris. Coale better show the REAL him to make them keep 6 WR.

I think it will be between Coale and Holmes for that sixth spot, and I don't think Holmes makes it to the PS. Because of the injuries, I think Coale winds up on PS this season.

[Eskimo]

Originally Posted by Future

I think it will be between Coale and Holmes for that sixth spot, and I don't think Holmes makes it to the PS. Because of the injuries, I think Coale winds up on PS this season.

I think the top 4 are probably decided at this point: Dez, Miles, Otree and Beasley.

The final one or two spots will be a battle between Holmes, Coale, Harris, Benford and Kemp.

Right now I think the two we keep are Coale and Holmes and we try to put Harris on the PS again. What I think we should do is give Harris and Coale the two spots and put Holmes on waivers and try to get him on the PS. I just don't think Holmes is ready to play this year. He just doesn't get much separation yet and has questionable hands. That is not a good combination because many of his catches will be challenged due to lack of separation ala Keyshawn Johnson. The trouble is he can't catch away from his body which negates much of his size advantage and he has shown the bar can be jarred loose with a hit and this will lead to tip drill INTs in regular season play. If we put Holmes on the 53-man roster it would be to continue to develop him for next year.

It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. Coale being out combined with the re-emergence of Otree, the strong play of Harris and Beasley and disappointing play of Holmes has really clouded the WR situation. I do think many of these guys are NFL quality players unlike last year where we only had Miles and Dez on opening day. We acquired Robinson for the 3rd game of the season due to injury. I don't forsee us dipping into the vet pool right now based on the play the first two games.

I think Jimmy Robinson is doing a great job. I can't wait to see what he can do if we bring him in some high ceiling talent instead of a bunch of late draft picks and UDFAs.

[CoCo]

Originally Posted by Eskimo

I think Jimmy Robinson is doing a great job. I can't wait to see what he can do if we bring him in some high ceiling talent instead of a bunch of late draft picks and UDFAs.

You mean someone like Dez?

[fifaguy]

Holmes, Benford and Radway were really unimpressive.... I'd like to see more consistency out of the receivers (especially Ogletree), he should be putting up those numbers every week. Beasley was the best receiver out there by far last night. He won a spot on the team last night, if not the #3/and or slot position. I also don't see how Coale makes this team at the point, maybe PS.

[blackbull]

Beasley isn't better than Harris. Get outta here with that. Harris can also return punts/ kicks and play on kickoff coverage. This Beasley love affair is cute though.

[Woods]

I think Beasley has a very good shot to make the team, BUT his STs support is limited.

He can really be only used on punt returns, imo. I don't think he'd last on KO returns. Obviously he can't cover punts/kick offs given his size either.

As for Harris, he has more STs ability to contribute, imo. But that said, Beasley seems to have a "feel" for playing the slot position.

I think both guys have a good shot to make the final 53. I think Coale urgently needs to get into the last two pre-season games and show something.

As for Holmes, I'm just not sold. While he flashed vs Oakland, he didn't play as well vs SD.

[honyock]

Originally Posted by Eskimo

I think the top 4 are probably decided at this point: Dez, Miles, Otree and Beasley.

The final one or two spots will be a battle between Holmes, Coale, Harris, Benford and Kemp.

Right now I think the two we keep are Coale and Holmes and we try to put Harris on the PS again. What I think we should do is give Harris and Coale the two spots and put Holmes on waivers and try to get him on the PS. I just don't think Holmes is ready to play this year. He just doesn't get much separation yet and has questionable hands. That is not a good combination because many of his catches will be challenged due to lack of separation ala Keyshawn Johnson. The trouble is he can't catch away from his body which negates much of his size advantage and he has shown the bar can be jarred loose with a hit and this will lead to tip drill INTs in regular season play. If we put Holmes on the 53-man roster it would be to continue to develop him for next year.

You may be right on that, but I wouldn't be wild about that happening. I'm not sure that's a great message to send, putting a productive guy (Harris) on the PS and protecting a 5th round rookie who hasn't been able to get on, or stay on, the field. If Coale was a high pick, maybe, but he's just got to show something to earn that spot over players who've been active and productive in camp.

At this point, if they protect Coale, it almost seems like it'd be a redshirt season for him. He's missed a lot of time on his learning curve and developing any kind of chemistry with Tony.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

True, Harris did some good things as well last night. He is one of those guys who needs to show it week in and week out.

And he is. He has made decent contributions both games now as a WR and on Special Teams. They keep giving him more responsibility and he keeps delivering.
8 targets? 8 positive plays. 100%
Kick coverage? 2 tackles.
Slot? 3 receptions and a TD.
Outside WR? 3 receptions
Punt return? 1 for 16 yards.
Plus he already led the team last year in KO return average (29) and yards.

He can help this team and deserves kudos so far

[jobberone]

Originally Posted by honyock

You may be right on that, but I wouldn't be wild about that happening. I'm not sure that's a great message to send, putting a productive guy (Harris) on the PS and protecting a 5th round rookie who hasn't been able to get on, or stay on, the field. If Coale was a high pick, maybe, but he's just got to show something to earn that spot over players who've been active and productive in camp.

At this point, if they protect Coale, it almost seems like it'd be a redshirt season for him. He's missed a lot of time on his learning curve and developing any kind of chemistry with Tony.

They'd have to really be high on the guy unless of course he shows something the next two games.

[blackbull]

Originally Posted by DFWJC

And he is. He has made decent contributions both games now as a WR and on Special Teams. They keep giving him more responsibility and he keeps delivering.
8 targets? 8 positive plays. 100%
Kick coverage? 2 tackles.
Slot? 3 receptions and a TD.
Outside WR? 3 receptions
Punt return? 1 for 16 yards.
Plus he already led the team last year in KO return average (29) and yards.

He can help this team and deserves kudos so far

Facts hurt agendas. I like Beasley but he'd be the fifth wr on the team based on play

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by DFWJC

And he is. He has made decent contributions both games now as a WR and on Special Teams. They keep giving him more responsibility and he keeps delivering.
8 targets? 8 positive plays. 100%
Kick coverage? 2 tackles.
Slot? 3 receptions and a TD.
Outside WR? 3 receptions
Punt return? 1 for 16 yards.
Plus he already led the team last year in KO return average (29) and yards.

He can help this team and deserves kudos so far

I agree, all I'm suggesting is he continue to go out and produce. I'm pulling for Harris as I do all the guys out there. In the end we only have so many spots and so for Harris to make a strong statement he needs to go out each day and each game and prove he deserves the spot. I wish him the best

[proline]

I think Harris definitely makes the team. The only question I have is which one of Coale and Holmes makes the team.