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09-19-2012
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#46
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Originally Posted by Doomsday101
Oline did not cost us in the seahawks game, Romo had time to throw it takes guys on the other end of the throw to make the play. Problems were with the skill guys the plays were there they failed to make them.
Vs NY yes Romo had to move guess what so do other QB's. I don't see Rodgers, or Brady or Brees constantly in the pocket when facing good defense they have to get outside and make plays and so does Romo.
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Romo may have made time to throw and yeah other QBs have to move but I don't see Romo get a clean pocket where he can actually survey the defense very often definitely not as often as those other QBs do. When I mentioned the O-Line I was referring to the overall direction of what they're consistently setting out to do.
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09-19-2012
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#47
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Originally Posted by rocyaice
Its too early to tell now but the identity I have for them is that they are a finesse team who have to nail the big play to win. They're not going to grind out wins.
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This is wisdom, people. Pay attention.
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09-19-2012
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#48
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Originally Posted by Yoshimitsu
On offense they are finesse.
The defense is still trying to find their niche.
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I don't think that's the way though offensively, I think this offense would work better if they establish Murray and let Romo play off of that with play action and draw plays.
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09-19-2012
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#49
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Originally Posted by Zordon
i think jason has a philosophy of what he wants his team to look like. i'm sure he preaches it to his team. but i haven't seen it on the field yet. there seems to be a disconnect between what he wants and the product on the field. when you think of jason garrett you think of a physical and disciplined team that plays hard. when you think of rob ryan you think of an aggressive team that plays with swagger and creates turnovers. for some reason the identity of the coaches isn't catching on with the team. it's very frustrating b/c i really REALLY want to believe in this regime but they took a huge step backwards this past game imo.
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Man Zordon is smart.
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09-19-2012
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#50
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Originally Posted by gdogg24
This team's identity on both sides of the ball is very fuzzy. For this team to avoid the same rut we've been in the Head Coach needs to establish what this team is gonna be offensively and defensively. if you think about it what's this team's offensive identify? The top teams of the league you know what they're gonna do whether it's San Francisco, Green Bay, New England or whoever it is has some kind of identity, but us? I though The most consistent thing I've seen from us over the years is we're gonna rely on Ware to bail us out on defense and Romo to bail us out on offense. I was excited with DeMarco Murray because I thought it would help establish an identity offensively we're gonna come out establish the run and beat you with our size at receiver. Defensively I was excited because I figured by Jason bringing Rob in as our D coordinator ment we were gonna establish a defense that was gonna be physical on the outside and get after the QB. Wins and loses for me come down to coaching, [View Full Quote]scheme and execution so what is the identity that all these things are building toward?
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This team has no identity. Garrett has consitently said that on offense he will take what the defense gives him. In affect, a defensive coordinator can basically dictate what the Cowboys will do. Watching Garrett run the offense since he has been here has been very predictable.
We are clearly a finesse team. No toughness or phisicality. Car, Lee, Claiborne, vickers, Murray are hopefully the new blood that can change that.
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09-19-2012
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#51
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Originally Posted by gdogg24
I don't think that's the way though offensively, I think this offense would work better if they establish Murray and let Romo play off of that with play action and draw plays.
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No question. And Even if the runs arent working, dont abandon it. One or two nice runs can soften things up.
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09-19-2012
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#52
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Our offensive identity is: Wait for the designed play to break-down and hope Romo works some magic.
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09-20-2012
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#53
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Originally Posted by CowboyRoy
This team has no identity. Garrett has consitently said that on offense he will take what the defense gives him. In affect, a defensive coordinator can basically dictate what the Cowboys will do. Watching Garrett run the offense since he has been here has been very predictable.
We are clearly a finesse team. No toughness or physicality. Car, Lee, Claiborne, vickers, Murray are hopefully the new blood that can change that.
No question. And Even if the runs arent working, dont abandon it. One or two nice runs can soften things up.
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Exactly, we have good skill position players that allow us to be well rounded which sounds good but the thing that we're really saying is we constantly adjust to whatever game plan our opponents are coming out with against us. So yeah we adjust to them instead of setting the tone and having out opponents adjust to us. We have some hard nosed players now, but until the scheme is built around setting the tone with these guys it doesn't really matter. If we abandon the run when that's the best way to consistently net results it only kills your progression in the long run. Eventually you have to go back to the thing you do best to pull out games. Build the team around smash mouth linemen that can take control of the LOS then dictate to the opposition what kind of game is going to be played.
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09-20-2012
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#54
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Inconsistent and they say the team takes the identity of their hc. Go figure
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09-20-2012
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#55
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When DeMarco Murray touches the ball 20 plus times,we are unbeaten. Establish the run and watch us prosper.
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09-20-2012
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#56
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Call it for what it is.
They're an undisciplined and unreliable team.
They have the talent and toughness to beat anybody but often lose focus, play undisciplined and lose games they should win as a result. Every time they get a big win you wonder if they get satisfied and lose focus for the next game.
Am I wrong?
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Trent Dilfer: "Tony [Romo] has greatness in him. I think when you talk to other people that really play the quarterback position, there's a few guys that really have incredible greatness in them, and Tony is one of them. I think the issue here is he needs more help from his teammates. I think they are not nearly as talented as people say they are, from 1 to 53. I'm talking about the total roster.”
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09-20-2012
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#57
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Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Houston, Texas |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gdogg24
Romo may have made time to throw and yeah other QBs have to move but I don't see Romo get a clean pocket where he can actually survey the defense very often definitely not as often as those other QBs do. When I mentioned the O-Line I was referring to the overall direction of what they're consistently setting out to do.
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I want to see improvement in the line this groups now has played 2 whole games together. Face it this OL is different Smith is in his 1st year as LT we have 2 new guards a new Center and Free at RT and they have a total of 2 games together. It is hard to say how much they can improve over the course of the season and a bit too early to know the identity of this team.
Offense and defense there have been changes made, same with the coaching staff so when people start talking 2 or 3 years ago it is a bunch of non sense because it is not the same team of 2 or 3 years ago
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09-20-2012
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#58
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If inconsistency is an identity, there's your answer.
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09-20-2012
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#59
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Joined: | Dec 2011 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AMERICAS_FAN
Call it for what it is.
They're an undisciplined and unreliable team.
They have the talent and toughness to beat anybody but often lose focus, play undisciplined and lose games they should win as a result. Every time they get a big win you wonder if they get satisfied and lose focus for the next game.
Am I wrong?
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The Dallas Cowboys are far from a tough football team. In fact, they're downright mentally fragile at times.
Nothing about our football team screams tough or intense. My opinions are not knee jerk. I'm not going soley off of what I observerd on Sunday.
My assessment is based on the body of work of this team and its coaches over the past few seasons.
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09-20-2012
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#60
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Old Fashioned
Joined: | Sep 2004 |
Location: | Chesterfield, VA |
Posts: | 3,392 |
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BUMS.....That simple
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