A. Cromartie is a beast...

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by NIBGoldenchild

Forgive my ignorance, what is PFF?

Could be ProFootballFocus.com

They're a decent site in that they provide numbers I haven't seen elsewhere.

But that's about it.

How they track numbers is kind of a "best guess" method.

And they use formulas that are pretty awful to come up with a ranking for "signature stats" such as "Pass Rushing Productivity"

I like the site because they have numbers you don't find elsewhere and because as flawed as they might be, they tally the same for all players so any sort of flaw they do have in tracking numbers is gonna equal out over the course of the season.

[NIBGoldenchild]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

Could be ProFootballFocus.com

They're a decent site in that they provide numbers I haven't seen elsewhere.

But that's about it.

How they track numbers is kind of a "best guess" method.

And they use formulas that are pretty awful to come up with a ranking for "signature stats" such as "Pass Rushing Productivity"

I like the site because they have numbers you don't find elsewhere and because as flawed as they might be, they tally the same for all players so any sort of flaw they do have in tracking numbers is gonna equal out over the course of the season.

Cool, thanks!

[Joshmil53]

Originally Posted by NIBGoldenchild

Cool, thanks!

Keep in mind you have to pay for the premium stats.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by NIBGoldenchild

Forgive my ignorance, what is PFF?

Pro Football Focus. Lots of stats and game analysis and stuff. Some people really love them (Hi Clarence Hill), some don't. I love reading their analysis but don't swear by them. Take with a grain of salt, but it is one way to view things, not that it is the end all or be all. That doesn't exist I don't think.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Joshmil53

Keep in mind you have to pay for the premium stats.

Yeah, that is why I couldn't produce their numbers for Carr the other day...I only access their free stuff

[dogberry]

PFF : Pro Football Focus? My guess. I need to refresh more.

[FiveRings]

Something about this stat doesn't sit right with me, seems like these numbers could be tainted with the amount of long shots down the field vs. little checkdowns or screens. Sure maybe Cromartie is doing well in completion % but avert your gaze a column to the right and you'll see he's given up about 260 yards.

I hate Cromartie, he gets burnt all the time, gets at least on PI call a game, and people still continue to praise him off of one good year with the Chargers

[Ntegrase96]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Yeah, that is why I couldn't produce their numbers for Carr the other day...I only access their free stuff

So far Carr has given up about 50 more yards on two more targets with only about 57% completion ratio, 1 td surrendered.

Both Claiborne and Carr have opp QB ratings over 100... however, again they haven't been targeted much and the low amount of interceptions and TDs given up affects that number pretty greatly.

Opp QB rating is a pretty poor way to rate a CB, if you ask me. It counts for Brownie Points if anything. A guy like Casey Heyward has a really low opp QB rating, and that's really great for him because he's playing lights out, but guys with higher opp QB ratings aren't necessarily doing poorly.

Overall, as a CB you never want to hear your name called, so if your not giving the offense many opportunities to throw your way (low targets), then you're doing your job. That should count for much higher than what it does in these rankings... it's essentially a Pass Defensed.

Overall, both corners are doing well but not making plays... I'm okay with that. We knew that about Carr when we signed him, and Mo' is still a rookie playing it safe.

This tandem will be good, and Scandrick is a fantastic slot corner.