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Old 11-15-2012   #16
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He took this deal because if he told what really happened his mother goes to jail.
That's the REAL bottom line here.


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Old 11-15-2012   #17
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This isn't a plea.
That's what I understood as well. The title is misleading (not intentional though)


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Old 11-15-2012   #18
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Should have put a condition of 1200 yards and 10 TD's.
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Should have put a condition of 1200 yards and 10 TD's.
Or learn the playbook.
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Old 11-15-2012   #20
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Typical probation term would say, "Commit no offense against the laws of this state or any other state." In that case, an arrest may not be a violation if there is a subsequent dismissal or no charges filed.
So Pep, this is a pretty typical outcome for a first offense type case, right? Seems like you have a situation where, if convicted, the most likely outcome is a assignment to some form of diversion anyway. So much of this seems like the DA got the level of punishment they would have sought without going to court
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Sounds more like a diversion we have up here than a conditional discharge although both would be considered plea deals in our system.
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He took this deal because if he told what really happened his mother goes to jail.
Really?

Maybe he took the deal to save a bag of kittens!

Maybe he took the seal to stop[ global climate change.

Maybe he took the deal because he was guilty. Oops! Should not have gone contrary to gansta love.
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Great things were worked out in the justice system now what does the league do? Hopefully nothing more than a warning
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He took this deal because if he told what really happened his mother goes to jail.
Pretty much the best explanation is always the simplest.

His mom called the cops. They found her complaint credible. So did the DA. He is assigned to diversion as his punishment.

Now isn't that simpler than some crazy "she made it up as part of a shakedown" theory?
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Pretty much the best explanation is always the simplest.

His mom called the cops. They found her complaint credible. So did the DA. He is assigned to diversion as his punishment.

Now isn't that simpler than some crazy "she made it up as part of a shakedown" theory?
What I find funny is ANYONE trying to act as if they actually know what really occurred.
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What I find funny is ANYONE trying to act as if they actually know what really occurred.
That's the job of the police and the DA. You can clearly see from their actions that they do believe the mom's story. That isn't acting if as if I know what occurred -- it is using simple LOGIC to draw a conclusion.
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So Pep, this is a pretty typical outcome for a first offense type case, right? Seems like you have a situation where, if convicted, the most likely outcome is a assignment to some form of diversion anyway. So much of this seems like the DA got the level of punishment they would have sought without going to court
Yeah we call it a pre-trial diversion here where I practice. I suspect that's what it's called in Dallas, but it could be something different. And I think if Dez were convicted he would likely get a term of probation. The only difference is he doesn't have to go into court and say he's guilty or go through a trial, assuming he holds up his end of the deal.

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Sounds more like a diversion we have up here than a conditional discharge although both would be considered plea deals in our system.
When we do a pre-trial diversion, it may include the signing of a judicial confession, but it usually doesn't require a defendant to go into court and enter a plea of guilty. That's the only reason I don't consider it a plea. Still cutting a deal... I may be splitting hairs a bit.
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Is there a legal definition for "stay out of trouble"
Yeah, because if he does they can still charge him with assault because the statute of limitations runs for 2 years. So they have that long to charge him. Not that it'd hold much water if they did at that point though. But still...

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His mom called the cops. They found her complaint credible. So did the DA. He is assigned to diversion as his punishment.
You mean the crackhead?

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LOL his odds are about 50-50 and the DA knows it.


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