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11-17-2012
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#31
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First off, i'm one of Romo's biggest supporters but its troubling to me when he's having a bad year and all people want to blame are "receivers running bad routes"? The same receivers he's had for the past 3 or 4 years? Stop it. Romo is struggling. Not as of late but overall. Phillip Rivers is as well as Eli Manning. It happens. Blaming 13 interceptions on "bad routes" is silly.
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11-17-2012
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#32
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Originally Posted by silver
Nice post. I would also add that the rebuilding of the OL coupled with the injury to Murray has affected Romo's efficiency. It would be nice to see a similar analysis when Romo has all the tools at his disposal and the OL starters and Murray play. I bet the passer rating drops when Murray and Costa are out.
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Going back to the first game in which Murray had at least 10 carries...
When Murray got at least 10 carries in the game, Romo's rating is 95.7.
When Murray didn't play, or got less than 10 carries in the game, Romo's rating is 98.5.
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11-17-2012
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#33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rocyaice
Blaming 13 interceptions on "bad routes" is silly.
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Not all but certainly a big percentage of his int's are not his fault.
This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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11-17-2012
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#34
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Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
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Originally Posted by BTX
Is tony just in a slump or is he on the downside of his career? I honestly don't know.
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It seems to me he's been better since he hasn't been trying to get it to Bryant as much.
Now, I agree with others who've said he hasn't looked quite as sharp this season, but I'm sure receivers running the wrong routes, interceptions caused by that and drops and the inconsistency of the offensive line have affected his play.
It's difficult to play quarterback when you can't expect the line to hold their blocks or the receivers to be where expected and when you're having to be extra wary of turnovers.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
Stephen Jones on salary cap limitations
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11-17-2012
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#35
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Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
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Originally Posted by rocyaice
First off, i'm one of Romo's biggest supporters but its troubling to me when he's having a bad year and all people want to blame are "receivers running bad routes"? The same receivers he's had for the past 3 or 4 years? Stop it. Romo is struggling. Not as of late but overall. Phillip Rivers is as well as Eli Manning. It happens. Blaming 13 interceptions on "bad routes" is silly.
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I believe Jason Garrett said six of the interceptions were Romo's fault and the others were because of other "circumstances."
Offhand, I can think of at least four that were caused by bad routes/drops.
No one is saying Romo hasn't made mistakes/bad decisions, but it's also clear not all of the interceptions are his fault.
You can say that about probably every quarterback, but it's been an epidemic for the Cowboys this year, which skews Romo's numbers.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
Stephen Jones on salary cap limitations
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11-17-2012
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#36
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Originally Posted by BTX
Well that's last year, he sure isn't looking sharp THIS year. It's not just the turnovers he's missing open receivers all over the place.And I'm very concerned.
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67% completion percentage and "he is missing WR everywhere".
Whatever - you guys are ridiculous
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11-17-2012
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#37
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Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
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Originally Posted by aikemirv
67% completion percentage and "he is missing WR everywhere".
Whatever - you guys are ridiculous
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Well, if he wasn't missing receivers everywhere, it could be 100 percent.
Why isn't Romo perfect? 
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
Stephen Jones on salary cap limitations
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11-17-2012
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#38
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Romo has missed on throws that should have been TDS if he had thrown it the way we expect a qb to throw it.
He's way off this year. I think its a combination of things. I do think hes already peaked. His decision making/accuracy is on the decline. Once he loses his legs, hes cooked. Couple that with him not trusting his protection or receivers not named Witten or Miles--its going to be ugly.
Im a little nervous Jerry is not going to address the QB position. We need to start looking now.
Gemini Dolly's twitter
QB Tony Romo has played 4 "Win or Go Home" games since 2008 (includes 2 playoff gms) -- in 3 of them, his QBR was less than 20"
---ESPNStatsINFO
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11-17-2012
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#39
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It's really amazing at the number of people who have no idea how the game of football is played, and who they think is good and bad, its truly scary.
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11-17-2012
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#40
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Originally Posted by gimmesix
Why isn't Romo perfect? 
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I know, right? He's missing 33% of his throws. That's like...a whole third....nevermind that's good for about 5th best in the league. It still sucks. I mean....a third of his passes...
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Originally Posted by Eskimo
I honestly do believe he is in decline because his ability to make quick reads seems to have diminished. He has never been able to exploit the middle of the field due to poor ability to avoid INTs on these throws except on simple check downs to Witten or RBs.
Now you can add an arm that is weaker taken some throws off the table, poor accuracy and limited ability to throw deep with even a single deep safety on the field.
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I would love to see your evidence that supports any of this.
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11-17-2012
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#41
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This is Romo 10 year in the league so its not a stretch to assume some of his physical quality is dwindling. It won't stop Dallas from handcuffing themselves with another contract for 30+ player on wrong side of his playing career.
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11-17-2012
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#42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wood
This is Romo 10 year in the league so its not a stretch to assume some of his physical quality is dwindling. It won't stop Dallas from handcuffing themselves with another contract for 30+ player on wrong side of his playing career.
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Handcuffing them from picking up Peyton Manning in the offseason as a free agent. Oh, yeah that happens once every 20 years.
There are so many options out there!!!
I'll take Tony and just listen to you complainers for another 5 years hopefully!
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11-17-2012
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#43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aikemirv
Handcuffing them from picking up Peyton Manning in the offseason as a free agent. Oh, yeah that happens once every 20 years.
There are so many options out there!!!
I'll take Tony and just listen to you complainers for another 5 years hopefully!
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Exactly..I never hear a name...ever. I just assume there's some messiah out there not named quincy, or chad hutchinson that will take us to the promised land, but I never hear an idea ever, I just hear that's a typical cowboyszone/Romo lover answer when asked for an answer.
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11-17-2012
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#44
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Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aikemirv
I'll take Tony and just listen to you complainers for another 5 years hopefully!
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I haven't thought about it that way, but I'm with you.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
Stephen Jones on salary cap limitations
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11-17-2012
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#45
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Senior Member
Joined: | Sep 2012 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eskimo
I honestly do believe he is in decline because his ability to make quick reads seems to have diminished. He has never been able to exploit the middle of the field due to poor ability to avoid INTs on these throws except on simple check downs to Witten or RBs.
Now you can add an arm that is weaker taken some throws off the table, poor accuracy and limited ability to throw deep with even a single deep safety on the field.
IMO the defense is just squeezing the throws that he is able to make and it is causing great difficulty for us right now. In order to have a chance with Romo the OL has to get a lot better so we have an effective running game and more time for routes to develop. I do believe the top tier QBs would do a lot better in this offense and with this roster.
I no longer believe that Romo is a top 10 QB.
[View Full Quote]If we get an attractive offer for him we should probably trade him and start to re-build. There are still too many missing pieces here for us to contend with a non-elite QB to think we can turn it around before Romo falls off a cliff. There are some teams strapped by poor QB play including the Eagles, 49ers, Chiefs, Bears, Bucs and Browns.
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I hate to say it but I feel the same way.
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