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Old 11-26-2012   #46
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You make it sound like Romo is 5'8" or something. He's taller than Drew Brees.

Bledsoe was 6'5".

Brees also drops far in the pocket.

If you look at the SF game they just played in, Brees had to step up into the pocket and he threw some "blind" balls.

Everyone laughed at the comments that Brandon Jacobs said a few years ago but he was right about forcing Romo to stay in the pocket and make him throw from it.
"It's little bit like the description of pornography from years back. It's hard to define it. But you know what it is at the end of it. It's hard to define it. I think you know who is more physical. Often times you see that in the fourth quarter. A lot of time the team on the other side feels it. We pride ourselves on being a physical football team. It's important to us. It's an important time of the year to lay that foundation." - Coach Garrett
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Brees also drops far in the pocket.

If you look at the SF game they just played in, Brees had to step up into the pocket and he threw some "blind" balls.

Everyone laughed at the comments that Brandon Jacobs said a few years ago but he was right about forcing Romo to stay in the pocket and make him throw from it.
I guess I never considered 6'2" or so "too short to see over linemen".
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "

"If we can get the running game going early, that'll open up the passing game for Troy." - Jerry Jones, 11/12/12
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I guess I never considered 6'2" or so "too short to see over linemen".

Romo is 6'1'' although he lists at 6'2''.
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Romo is 6'1'' although he lists at 6'2''.
Based on what? Everywhere you look says 6'2", even his combine results.
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "

"If we can get the running game going early, that'll open up the passing game for Troy." - Jerry Jones, 11/12/12
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Brees also drops far in the pocket.

If you look at the SF game they just played in, Brees had to step up into the pocket and he threw some "blind" balls.

Everyone laughed at the comments that Brandon Jacobs said a few years ago but he was right about forcing Romo to stay in the pocket and make him throw from it.
Let us assume that is true... was Jason Garrett also one of those laughing?
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Romo is 6'1'' although he lists at 6'2''.
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I guess I never considered 6'2" or so "too short to see over linemen".

Well Cook is 6'6", Livings, 6'5", and Bernadeau 6'4". Dockery is 6'6".


Romo's listed height is generous, but Romo is still one of the best pre-snap read QBs in the league. This is because of his work ethic and film study.

I still believe that Romo can still be a SB winner with his skillset but he also needs to have a potent running game to help him.

Sean Payton is not going to bring that with him. NO lost to the Saints because they get one dimensional all too often. They can't run the ball worth a damn. They've demonstrated this so many times against good defenses. In his 7 seasons Payton only ranked 6th in running 2 times.

Payton's offense is more of a deep, vertical threat than Garretts. The same slow, developing plays they run he will bring here as well.
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I would think most lineman are on average taller or at least equal in height to their QBs...

I love the excuses people are making against Payton in order to defend Garrett staying... Now, suddenly Payton has slow and long developing pass plays, when previously people were telling us how it's not true with Garrett and he throws the ball short as is evidenced by the one play he overthrew Witten on an out pattern that was like 5 yards long.
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I guess I never considered 6'2" or so "too short to see over linemen".
Did you listen to Romo's interview when he said in this offense "I need the receiver to be in the right spot and on time."?

Don't misunderstand my comments here, it's not like he's not throwing blindly out there all the time but there have been plenty of times where his primary reads were covered and he goes to secondary ones and loses sight of defenders.
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Let us assume that is true... was Jason Garrett also one of those laughing?

Trolling?
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Wait, only QBs 6 foot 2 and less lose sight of defenders when going to their second read? How does that explain Drew Bledsoe chucking up INTs left and right.

Romo is referring to a timing-based route and suddenly somebody wants to throw in height as an issue in relation to what Romo is talking about.. Like I said before, even Romo will be thrown under the bust to defend this clown of a coach.
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Trolling?
Jason Garrett defense down to the last breath?
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I would think most lineman are on average taller or at least equal in height to their QBs...

I love the excuses people are making against Payton in order to defend Garrett staying... Now, suddenly Payton has slow and long developing pass plays, when previously people were telling us how it's not true with Garrett and he throws the ball short as is evidenced by the one play he overthrew Witten on an out pattern that was like 5 yards long.
not in their blocking stances. 6'6" is really tall for an interior OL. Those guys usually stay 6'3" or so.

all that said a big headed Texas Tech OL ruined my Saturday. LOL.
doege was tossing a short screen, it hit the OL in the helmet as he was wandering in the area, bounced right to a Bear defender and was returned for 6.
But I still don't know what any team saw Thursday night that would have made them comfortable with waiting a round or two for the offensive lineman they wanted. ---Todd McShay
We just converted half our LB to DL. We have a 30m starting DL, it better be pretty friggin good.
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Did you listen to Romo's interview when he said in this offense "I need the receiver to be in the right spot and on time."?

Don't misunderstand my comments here, it's not like he's not throwing blindly out there all the time but there have been plenty of times where his primary reads were covered and he goes to secondary ones and loses sight of defenders.
No, I didn't hear that interview, but wouldn't pretty much every other QB in the NFL say the same thing?

Also, something I found to be interesting about the Packers...

The Packers haven't shown much interest in height (Brett Favre, Rodgers, Flynn, Brohm are all 6'2") and weren't swayed at all from grabbing Rodgers when they had the chance and he's been a perfect fit.

http://www.fieldgulls.com/2012/5/3/2...raft-qb-height
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "

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Wait, only QBs 6 foot 2 and less lose sight of defenders when going to their second read? How does that explain Drew Bledsoe chucking up INTs left and right.

Romo is referring to a timing-based route and suddenly somebody wants to throw in height as an issue in relation to what Romo is talking about.. Like I said before, even Romo will be thrown under the bust to defend this clown of a coach.
Until you post something relevant IMO, your just trolling...as usual.
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No, I didn't hear that interview, but wouldn't pretty much every other QB in the NFL say the same thing?
It depends on the scheme.

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Also, something I found to be interesting about the Packers...

The Packers haven't shown much interest in height (Brett Favre, Rodgers, Flynn, Brohm are all 6'2") and weren't swayed at all from grabbing Rodgers when they had the chance and he's been a perfect fit.

http://www.fieldgulls.com/2012/5/3/2...raft-qb-height
Josh Sitton 6'3", Jeff Saturday 6'2", T.J. Lang 6'4"
"It's little bit like the description of pornography from years back. It's hard to define it. But you know what it is at the end of it. It's hard to define it. I think you know who is more physical. Often times you see that in the fourth quarter. A lot of time the team on the other side feels it. We pride ourselves on being a physical football team. It's important to us. It's an important time of the year to lay that foundation." - Coach Garrett
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