When does Parnell replace Free?

[fanfromvirginia]

Originally Posted by xwalker

Yes, the numbers reflect a June 1st cut or a "designated" June 1st cut. The team is allowed to cut a player prior to June 1st but designate him as a June 1st cut in regards to the salary cap.

Terence Newman was a designated June 1st cut last year.

So we would owe 8.3 mil to the cap gods, which we might decide to spread over two years.

Really the money we owe him next year is only his seven mil salary. The rest of that cap hit is from his two signing bonuses, both of which have already been paid. So the way that source words it is a little misleading, IMO. Going forward it only costs 7 mil to keep him for 2012 and 8.3 to cut him (though the dead money hit can be spread out.)

[fanfromvirginia]

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

I thought there was no such thing as a June 1st cut anymore.

But you are correct -- he'd cost 4.18 mill of "dead" money each year. But that isn't a bad thing if you consider that you free up 7 mill in 2013 and 8 mill in 2014. That 7 mill of additional cap space for 2013 gives more space than you need to find the best UFA RT on the market if we want to go that route

Agreed it isn't a bad thing. I am all for cutting Free in the offseason.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by fanfromvirginia

Really the money we owe him next year is only his seven mil salary. The rest of that cap hit is from his two signing bonuses, both of which have already been paid. So the way that source words it is a little misleading, IMO. Going forward it only costs 7 mil to keep him for 2012 and 8.3 to cut him (though the dead money hit can be spread out.)

Originally Posted by xwalker

Free's Cap "Hit" in 2013:

Keep 11.18M (5.8M more than 2012)

Cut 4.18M (1.2M less than 2012)

Yes, 7M is 11.18M - 4.18M, the difference between the Keep and Cut cap hits.

I guess it depends on the wording.

If you consider that the 8.35M in dead money is a hit against the cap regardless of whether Free is on the roster or cut, then you could say:

Keep = 7M additional dollars
Cut = Zero additional dollars

[fanfromvirginia]

Originally Posted by xwalker

Yes, 7M is 11.18M - 4.18M, the difference between the Keep and Cut cap hits.

I guess it depends on the wording.

If you consider that the 8.35M in dead money is a hit against the cap regardless of whether Free is on the roster or cut, then you could say:

Keep = 7M additional dollars
Cut = Zero additional dollars

That's still kind of a confusing way to say it, IMO. The difference between the keep and cut cap hits is either 7 mil (because the only money actually owed him next season is his salary) minus 8.35 mil (not June 1 cut) or 7 mil minus 4.175 mil (designated as June 1 cut). So he either costs us 1.35 million more off roster than on in 2013 or 2.825 mil less in 2013, with another 4.175 charged against our 2014 cap.

Basically, for 2012 it's the difference between what we would owe the person or what we would owe the cap gods.

[EPL0c0]

Originally Posted by Romo 2 Austin

We need a RT and a RG in the offseason, thats not out of the realm of possibility.

sorry, had to double-check. I thought this was a comment/post from 2009, no I mean 2010, wait, I mean 2011, er I mean...

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by fanfromvirginia

That's still kind of a confusing way to say it, IMO. The difference between the keep and cut cap hits is either 7 mil (because the only money actually owed him next season is his salary) minus 8.35 mil (not June 1 cut) or 7 mil minus 4.175 mil (designated as June 1 cut). So he either costs us 1.35 million more off roster than on in 2013 or 2.825 mil less in 2013, with another 4.175 charged against our 2014 cap.

Basically, for 2012 it's the difference between what we would owe the person or what we would owe the cap gods.

Option 1 (keep)
11.18M Cap Hit in 2013

Option 2 (designate a June 1st cut)
4.18M Cap Hit in 2013

Option 3 (do NOT designate as a June 1st cut)
8.35M Cap Hit in 2013

Therefore, it is either:

Option 2
11.18M - 4.18M = 7M smaller hit in 2013 to cut

or

Option 3
11.18 - 8.35M = 2.83M smaller hit in 2013 to cut

[Reverend Conehead]

I've been wondering all season why Free doesn't get benched. His technique is terrible. D-linemen get by him all the time and he resorts to holding and he gets too many false starts. I seriously wonder if there's a single worse o-lineman in the NFL.

[newlander]

Originally Posted by Jenky

Most of the time, he's getting owned 1 on 1 with a standard bull rush or a speed rush to the outside. He looks so weak to me.

.....he's the WEAKEST tackle in the league from what I"ve seen...plus every def. end that goes up against him gets UNDER his pads and just abuses him with a bull rush: my god, at some point you'd THINK the man could bend his knees and get his butt lower, anchor himself and do his job: nope.

His body language is the worst I've ever seen on a tackle. Romo is a SAINT for not drop kicking him in the nads after yet another vicious hit after a sack....literally saintly for not assaulting the fat clown. He looks 40 yrs. old btw....doesn't look like he's been on a hard, disciplined, structured weight plan his whole career. Even his arms are undefined and flabby, which is a shock with Woicek as the S&T coach.....hate him

[jayhouston12]

We don't know what Parnell could truly offer after seeing limited action

but as bad as people claim doug free is i'm sure they'd rather see Jerry Jones suit up at Left Tackle than free

[neosapien23]

I don't understand why Garrett won't bench either Free or Ogletree, its downright infuriating. I think Dallas would make a bigger push for the playoffs if they could get these wastes of spaces on the bench. If Dallas doesn't make the playoffs, I hope Garrett is fired. There is no reason for Free to be in the starting lineup other than coaching incompetance. Even if Jones does want Free in the lineup, Garrett should put his foot down and play the better man. If Garrett cannot make the no duh call, he has no bussiness coaching a NFL team.

[TheSport78]

Originally Posted by jayhouston12

We don't know what Parnell could truly offer after seeing limited action

but as bad as people claim doug free is i'm sure they'd rather see Jerry Jones suit up at Left Tackle than free

We never knew what Miles Austin or DeMarco Murray could do until they got the OPPORTUNITY.