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juck · 12-04-2012

If the defense was healthy it would be top 5. The offense makes too many mistakes.

CowboyMcCoy · 12-04-2012

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Originally Posted by yentl911

We watched two different games. Our D missed simple coverage assignments and they were running the ball down our throats. We had no answer for their attack. They had more intensity and the game was really over by the middle of the 2nd quarter. That was an *** kicking any way you look at it. Any time you give up four TDs in one quarter and they were all offensive scores that is getting your *** kicked where I come from.

Getting your arse kicked to me is losing by 2 or more scores. We got out-coached, we didn't get our arses kicked.

CowboyChris · 12-04-2012

had we not lost Carter in the middle here recently, i would say yes, OL and Safeties are a concern.

Mr Cowboy · 12-04-2012

I agree with that with the current OL and the injuries on defense, the chances are slim.

The only real chance this team has is to get off to a sizzling start in the remaining games, which is not a strong point of this team or coaching staff. The offense needs to score touchdowns early and often, and make the other team play outside of their game plan.

If we continue with the same crappy game plan of falling behind early and having to to play catch up and defend a strong running game, we have no chance.

Realistically, Garrett is too stubborn, and arrogant to stray from his crappy game plan until its too late to control the game.

jday · 12-04-2012

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Originally Posted by CowboyMcCoy

You know how it goes. Look no further than the Giants who turned it on late in the season to make the playoffs, to win the Super Bowl. I'm trying to take a step back and see if I can find some positives about this team. I can. Murray is playing great, we have one of the best quarterbacks in the league in Romo, Dez Bryant is really coming on, Jason Witten is a beast amongst boys, the secondary looks outstanding (minus a few INT drops), our LBs are stepping up in place of the injured and guys like Dwayne Harris and Beasley are coming along like we'd hoped. Spencer is playing well, we know what Ware can do, etc.

Can we do what the Giants did not too long ago?

It's a simple question. Even with our green coach, do you think we've gotten good enough to make a solid run for the playoffs? I'm not asking how well you think we'll do in the playoffs. I'm asking how much better we are. Also, I'm not a Garrett fan, but I do hope he has learned from his mistakes.
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My expectations at this point are low, but stranger things have happened...I think.

jzcowboy · 12-04-2012

Redskins also have injuries to deal with. They also just lost a starting CB to suspension for the rest of the season.

It's go time Cowboys!!

**Idgit** · 12-04-2012

I think the offensive improvement--if it's sustainable--is almost perfectly offset by the defensive setbacks, which we know are pretty much going to be permanent.

If Rat were to come back and Lisemore to get stronger, I'd have meager hope for DL improvement and more pressure, but that's not looking likely.

I disagree with people who think we lack leadership from the top down. I think pretty much exactly the opposite. This looks like a gritty team that sticks around and has very good veteran leadership to me. We're compromised by injuries and, early in the year, turnovers.

Future · 12-04-2012

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Originally Posted by Teague31

Too many injuries on D to be serious contenders

Agree. It's unfortunate that even if, and that's a major if, this team can somehow get consistent and string wins together, we are too shorthanded to do so mroe than likely. Unless Ryan comes up with some genius way to hide the fact that the entire middle of our defense is scrubs - which will probably make him a head coach next year - we can't go anywhere. Realistically, we'd have to win at least 7 shootouts to win the Super Bowl...I don't see that happening.

DenCWBY · 12-04-2012

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Originally Posted by CowboyMcCoy

You know how it goes. Look no further than the Giants who turned it on late in the season to make the playoffs, to win the Super Bowl. I'm trying to take a step back and see if I can find some positives about this team. I can. Murray is playing great, we have one of the best quarterbacks in the league in Romo, Dez Bryant is really coming on, Jason Witten is a beast amongst boys, the secondary looks outstanding (minus a few INT drops), our LBs are stepping up in place of the injured and guys like Dwayne Harris and Beasley are coming along like we'd hoped. Spencer is playing well, we know what Ware can do, etc.

Can we do what the Giants did not too long ago?

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The answer is overall we have not improved and have gotten slightly worse.
There are a few improvements with some individual players but overall the balance of team improvement is worse by position. QB - worse, OLine - worse, DLine - worse, ST - same to worst, LB - improved, RB - same and sigificanly worse w/out Murray, CB - improved but you could'nt go anywhere but up. Safety - worse than last year, TE - same. We see some players like Dez, Lee, Harris which gives hope for improvement but it's lipstick on a pig.
Until the trenches are much improved, it's groundhogs day. I'm not going to hack long on JG but as a coach, I see no improvement and for his position coaches, no improvement and actually worse than last year. Ryan is awful as of late.

nalam · 12-04-2012

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Originally Posted by yentl911

Really? It sure looked like they came into our house on Turkey Day more prepared to play and kicked our ***. We were lucky to even be as close as we were at the end. Our D had No answer for them all day and we are less healthy now.

If our offense didn't lay an egg and defense could have got a few more plays in the first half we would have probably in a position to win that game 4 scores in one quarter while none for us, disgusting....

DFWJC · 12-04-2012

I think if you add in the innjured players that this team is better (and younger)than last year's team.

Some of us forget that this team lost three games in the closing minutes.
That would be, best case scenario, 9-3 right now with just a few plays.
And yes, I do realize that we won acouple like that too.

They still need to patch a bunch of holes and add more depth as well. But add back Carter, Lee, Church, Ratliff, Coleman, and Scandrick to this defense and they are far better than last year's bunch.

Is the oline better?
No

sbark · 12-04-2012

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Originally Posted by CowboyMcCoy

Honestly, I didn't see it that way. I saw some things, but I didn't see them come in kick our tails. I saw them beat us and win, which in my opinion is different. We had a bad game plan. But their players didn't really come in and beat up our players the whole game. We had a few tough breaks which gave them an early lead too.

agree.......I saw some passes from RGIII that next time could easily be tipped by the LB, passes thrown behind receivers that next time could be either a incomplete ball or a INT at best.

He is free wheeling on a good rookie season, but the breaks wont always go all his way.....it might actually be to our advantage to be on the road.

We'll see, it why the game will be played......our guys got some pride, I figure they'll show up

KJJ · 12-04-2012

The Cowboys have regressed they looked like a better team last season than they have so far this season. The defense looks a little better this season but it's starting to show cracks. After 12 games last season the Cowboys were 7-5 compared to 6-6 this season. Last season the Cowboys won 4 straight games at one point compared to this season where they've only been able to manage 2 straight wins.

Last season they completely dominated the Rams 34-7, Buffalo 44-7 and Tampa 34-14. This season they haven't beaten down one single team unless you want to count the first Philly game where they were handed 21 points by the defense and special teams which enabled them to come back from a 17-10 deficit. Last season the Cowboys were jumping out to leads against playoff teams like the Patriots and Lions only to cough them up in the 4th quarter.

This season they've been getting way behind in a number of games because of dreadfully slow starts. Last season they only scored under 20 points 3 times. This season they've already scored under 20 points 4 times with 4 games remaining. The Cowboys are going to have to go 3-1 just to improve on last years record. So far this has been a VERY DISAPPOINTING season.

Clove · 12-04-2012

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Originally Posted by jzcowboy

Redskins also have injuries to deal with. They also just lost a starting CB to suspension for the rest of the season.

It's go time Cowboys!!

Finally, someone without excuses.

Ratmatt · 12-04-2012

That win over the eagles,I'm afraid,will be the last win the cowboys have this year.