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Old 12-05-2012   #31
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Ah! Good ole' Theodore Bagwell. One of my favorite shows.
At that moment a voice came over me and said, Look up, get up, and don't ever give up. You tell everyone or anyone that has ever doubted, thought they did not measure up or wanted to quit, you tell them to look up, get up and don't ever give up. - Michael Irvin
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Old 12-05-2012   #32
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as long as jerry is here it really dose not matter. not sure why that is not obvious to all by now.
Sad but true.
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Old 12-05-2012   #33
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You have to keep the rebuilding within reason and you have to keep cap expenditures within reason. You also have to project a bit of the development in the existing roster.

I would suggest letting Spencer go as we need to conserve cap space to rebuild the team. I'd also let Free go since he is not worth his salary anymore and we could use the money better elsewhere.

We need to draft a premier pass rusher (1st round) as these are hard to come by in FA and Ware has shown he has started to decline. Ratliff has pretty much declared he is done as an every down player in the league. Spencer will never be that player. If we don't try to re-stock this hole in the roster we will be lost when the games start and QBs can relax. Ideally this guy will be very fast since we will need to contain RG3.

In the rest of the draft I'd like to find a DE, interior OL, Safety, CB and a WR prospect.

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I also fear Ware will never be Ware again. But I think you have to go with the one more year philosophy and hope he can dig deep, stay healthy and deliver another true all-pro season.

We can't afford to use resources on a replacement for him now, we need to focus on the OL and S positions.

As usual, I'm all for trading out of round 1 to get 2 higher day 2 picks.
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Old 12-05-2012   #34
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I also fear Ware will never be Ware again. But I think you have to go with the one more year philosophy and hope he can dig deep, stay healthy and deliver another true all-pro season.

We can't afford to use resources on a replacement for him now, we need to focus on the OL and S positions.

As usual, I'm all for trading out of round 1 to get 2 higher day 2 picks.
I view the idea of team-building as requiring a long-term perspective and not necessarily what do we need to get by this year. Our pass rush is only mediocre with Ware and we run the risk of becoming pathetic if we lose him and have to rely on Spencer and ? to do the passrushing. Spencer will never be an elite guy and doesn't consistently win battles against OTs. We have to get someone better in that slot and I'd be fine to trade up to find that player if need be.

With the money saved by passing on Spencer, you can shore up the OL and probably even add a good Safety into the mix.

I view this move as the best way to improve the defense, hedge against a declining Ware and properly manage available Cap space. Spencer is about to turn 29 and is probably putting up his career season right now and it'd be the wrong decision to extend him. If we couldn't come to terms after his mediocre 2011 I can't see how we're going to get it done after a better season. He is a $7M/yr type of player and we have to walk if the cost is higher.
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I view the idea of team-building as requiring a long-term perspective and not necessarily what do we need to get by this year. Our pass rush is only mediocre with Ware and we run the risk of becoming pathetic if we lose him and have to rely on Spencer and ? to do the passrushing. Spencer will never be an elite guy and doesn't consistently win battles against OTs. We have to get someone better in that slot and I'd be fine to trade up to find that player if need be.

With the money saved by passing on Spencer, you can shore up the OL and probably even add a good Safety into the mix.

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I agree with the strategy of upgrading Spencer to eventually replace Ware. I missed that you weren't resigning Spencer.

Not sure Spencer is going to get the type of money he's asking us for in FA. I could see him resigning for a reasonable deal. 5yrs 32mil 8mil SB.

I do believe we'd be better off in 2014 and 15, not signing him. You need to pick your spots carefully when resigning players and he's not a good long term signing.

But I'm thinking 2013 or bust. With the window on many of our key contributers closing quickly, I willing to mortgage the future a good bit.
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Ah! Good ole' Theodore Bagwell. One of my favorite shows.
Dude is a nut!

lol

Yeah show is one of my favs as well
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