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12-07-2012
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#136
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Originally Posted by TwoDeep3
Because of the offense Jimmy ran.
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You'd said that Romo would not have been as good behind Aikman's line. If you're changing that to "Romo would not have been as good as Aikman in an offense designed for Aikman," then of course I agree.
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12-07-2012
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#137
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Originally Posted by percyhoward
You'd said that Romo would not have been as good behind Aikman's line. If you're changing that to "Romo would not have been as good as Aikman in an offense designed for Aikman," then of course I agree.
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This is what i said:
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Originally Posted by TwoDeep3
When I see comparisons and "if Romo had Aikman's team," comments, I scratch my head.
Romo is a fabulous player. But there is no way to assume that if he were behind Aikman's line he would have been as good.
Because he is not as accurate.
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I am pretty sure what I said was exactly what I meant.
Romo has qualities Troy will never have. That Fran Tarkington style of slipping tackles and moving until someone comes open. He is a magician with that ability.
But Troy had something Romo does not have. A deadly accurate pin-point passing arm. An arm that can hit the target time and again without throwing behind the receiver, too high, too long.
Romo is a vicinity passer. Aikman was a target passer.
This is about style and ability.
You've been weighed
You've been measured
And you've been found to be a casual fan
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12-07-2012
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#138
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Banned
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Aikman is the most under-rated QB ever... Nobody placed the ball better than AIkman, plus he played in a league where DBs could actually touch WRs and that too, in a tming-based system. He would light up this league with his absolute cut-throat lethal persona.
Last edited by rickjameschinaclub : 12-07-2012 at 06:31 PM.
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12-07-2012
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#139
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoDeep3
There is no way to assume that if he were behind Aikman's line he would have been as good.
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Anyway, that's what I responding to.
Number of Players Not in the Hall of Fame with - 1. a Super Bowl ring
- 2. a 1st team All-Pro selection (Associated Press)
- 3. a minimum of five Pro Bowls, OR
a selection to the Hall of Fame's All-Decade Team
Cowboys 13
Dolphins 5
Broncos 4
Raiders 4
Buccaneers 3
49ers 3
Giants 3
Packers 3
Steelers 3
Bears 2
Chiefs 2
Redskins 2
Ravens 1
Colts 1
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12-07-2012
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#140
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Quote:
Originally Posted by percyhoward
Anyway, that's what I responding to.
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Because that us a general statement that some fans toss out as if that is all Romo needs. It is the same argument that Barry Sander's fans tossed out.
And there is more to this than just standing upright.
You've been weighed
You've been measured
And you've been found to be a casual fan
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12-07-2012
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#141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoDeep3
Because that us a general statement that some fans toss out as if that is all Romo needs.
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Sure wouldn't hoit.
Number of Players Not in the Hall of Fame with - 1. a Super Bowl ring
- 2. a 1st team All-Pro selection (Associated Press)
- 3. a minimum of five Pro Bowls, OR
a selection to the Hall of Fame's All-Decade Team
Cowboys 13
Dolphins 5
Broncos 4
Raiders 4
Buccaneers 3
49ers 3
Giants 3
Packers 3
Steelers 3
Bears 2
Chiefs 2
Redskins 2
Ravens 1
Colts 1
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12-07-2012
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#142
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Indomitable
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Just what we need...another thread in which football is discussed as a one man sport.
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12-07-2012
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#143
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Lonely Stranger
Years Donated 2007, 2009, 2012
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Originally Posted by Dodger
Just what we need...another thread in which football is discussed as a one man sport.
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Looking to blame one man for all the team.
It actually makes sense....I think? 
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Predicting the future can be very hard, mostly because it hasn’t happened yet."
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12-07-2012
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#144
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DeMarco's Agent
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Once again, the intention of the thread was never to cast blame. It was to encourage discussion around Romo's legacy and what it will take for him to elevate the conversation about him once he has finished playing. Nothing more. Nothing less.
"Competition is the greatest motivator." - - - Your Boy Bleu
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12-07-2012
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#145
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DeMarco's Agent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodger
Just what we need...another thread in which football is discussed as a one man sport.
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Sorry you weren't able to hit the back button on your browser before being compelled to provide nothing to the conversation.
"Competition is the greatest motivator." - - - Your Boy Bleu
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12-07-2012
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#146
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DeMarco's Agent
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Obviously an improved line would help Romo immensely. Would it not be a strong move for him to make his displeasure with the quality of the offensive line heard loud & clear by GM Jerry during contract nnegotiations? I don't think it's good enough to just negotiate new terms without having that discussion out on the table. After all, we are talking about what would be his last chance to get a ring or two and ultimately his legacy.
"Competition is the greatest motivator." - - - Your Boy Bleu
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12-07-2012
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#147
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Bleu Star
Sorry you weren't able to hit the back button on your browser before being compelled to provide nothing to the conversation.
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lol... at least he is consistent.
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12-07-2012
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#148
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Who Loves Ya Baby?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by percyhoward
Average Rank of Dallas Defense (points allowed):
Staubach's Defenses: 6th (over their 5 best seasons)
Aikman's Defenses: 3rd (over their 5 best seasons)
Romo's Defenses: 14th
Average Rank in Rushing Yards
Staubach's Backs: 3rd (over their 5 best seasons)
Aikman's Backs: 4th (over their 5 best seasons)
Romo's Backs: 15th
Offensive Line Combined All-Pro Selections
(Associated Press All-NFL 1st or 2nd Team)
Staubach's Lines: 7 (over their 5 best seasons)
Aikman's Lines: 9 (over their 5 best seasons)
Romo's Lines: 1
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I like how the OP responds to others and manages to overlook this particular post. Maybe he was so busy typing his agenda he just didn't see it?????
Does it prove that Romo is better than Aikman or Stauback? No it doesn't. It simply states that Romo has achieved a lot for himself with less talent and has done it all in a little over 6 years. Not bad for a undrafted free agent.
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12-07-2012
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#149
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PercyHoward hits it out of the park...
Romo's teams compared to Aikmans teams...the comparison is not even close.
I am sure that when Romo sits down with the Dallas brass the future direction of the team will be a high priority.
Have to laugh at the Romo is not accurate comments, The guy consistently puts up top 5 % of completion numbers. He's currently tossing at a 67.1% rate. Aikman in his best year never even came close to that and Romo does it while on the run and under supreme duress...something Aikman never had to deal with.
Aikman on todays team would be just above Bledsoe level, Romo on the 90's teams wins Championships.
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12-07-2012
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#150
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DeMarco's Agent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kojak
I like how the OP responds to others and manages to overlook this particular post. Maybe he was so busy typing his agenda he just didn't see it?????
Does it prove that Romo is better than Aikman or Stauback? No it doesn't. It simply states that Romo has achieved a lot for himself with less talent and has done it all in a little over 6 years. Not bad for a undrafted free agent.
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I wasn't aware that I needed to respond to it. I'm not a fan of menial stats. The rings matter more than anything else. That said, Percy made a strong case with his post but it still doesn't really speak to the conversation of what it will take for Romo's legacy to be elevate above that of Troy today. Hope this response helps alleviate your concerns around my alleged agenda... If not, I have an appropriate door prize for you.
"Competition is the greatest motivator." - - - Your Boy Bleu
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