how would you feel with trading back and getting these 2 guys? - Dallas Cowboys Forum

JoeyBoy718 · 01-09-2013

We have the #18 pick in the first and I'm guessing the #50 pick in the second. According to the NFL Draft Pick Value Calculator, those picks would be worth the #25 and #33 picks. How would you feel about trading back in the first and up in the second to get OL Barrett Jones from Alabama and S Matt Elam from Florida?

ABQcowboyJR · 01-09-2013

eh..... its not terrible, but not ideal IMO.

Future · 01-09-2013

I think we could probably get ELam at 52 with our own second rounder. If we get a big DT or pass rusher at 33, I really like this.

I don't believe that this type of scenario is outside of the realm of possibility.

JoeyBoy718 · 01-09-2013

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Originally Posted by Future

I think we could probably get ELam at 52 with our own second rounder. If we get a big DT or pass rusher at 33, I really like this.

I don't believe that this type of scenario is outside of the realm of possibility.

I guess my scenario is taking the safe route since they'll most likely be there at 25 and 35. I guess we just go BPA O-line in the 1st (maybe it's Warmack, maybe it's Jones) and hope we can stay put at 52 and get Elam. I think Elam would be an instant starter, and 3-4 or 4-3 we still need a safety.

rkell87 · 01-09-2013

pretty sure we have the 49th pick, we alternate with stealers each round

lostar2009 · 01-09-2013

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Originally Posted by Future

I think we could probably get ELam at 52 with our own second rounder. If we get a big DT or pass rusher at 33, I really like this.

I don't believe that this type of scenario is outside of the realm of possibility.

I dunno safties that can cover usually are taken off the board pretty early. There is a chance Eric Reid might be able to fall to 52

blackbull · 01-09-2013

Eric Reid sucks. If we get Elam I'll wet my pants. Period.

boysfanindc · 01-09-2013

The last time we drafted a Guard in the 1st round was 1981, there is no way JJ drafts a guard in round 1.

You will not see a Guard drafted before RD 2 or 3.

Chris in Arizona · 01-09-2013

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Originally Posted by JoeyBoy718

We have the #18 pick in the first and I'm guessing the #50 pick in the second. According to the NFL Draft Pick Value Calculator, those picks would be worth the #25 and #33 picks. How would you feel about trading back in the first and up in the second to get OL Barrett Jones from Alabama and S Matt Elam from Florida?

when trading down, I'm always hopeful that we pick up a pick in the next year's draft. That being said, I would still be thrilled if we added Jones and Elam. Jones adds versatility to play Guard or Center so it gives us a better chance to get the 5 best guys out there. Elam plays fast, which would be so welcomed from a Cowboy safety.

tm1119 · 01-09-2013

I'd be much happier with Cooper and a d-lineman like Shariff Floyd or Kawann Short. Safety is a need, but if it comes down to Sensabaugh starting next year or Mackenzie Bernardeau/Ryan Cook and Marcus Spears/Kenyon Coleman I'm taking Sensy every time. Upgrading safety this offseason is a luxury in my opinion, not a necessity. Upgrading both trenches is a necessity though.

IAmLegend · 01-09-2013

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Originally Posted by boysfanindc

The last time we drafted a Guard in the 1st round was 1981, there is no way JJ drafts a guard in round 1.

You will not see a Guard drafted before RD 2 or 3.

And that is why the Cowboys will not win anything ever again under Jerry Jones.

Manwiththeplan · 01-09-2013

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Originally Posted by rkell87

pretty sure we have the 49th pick, we alternate with stealers each round

technically 47th.

the browns used their second in the supplemental draft, and the saints lose theirs because of bountygate

blackbull · 01-09-2013

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Originally Posted by tm1119

I'd be much happier with Cooper and a d-lineman like Shariff Floyd or Kawann Short. Safety is a need, but if it comes down to Sensabaugh starting next year or Mackenzie Bernardeau/Ryan Cook and Marcus Spears/Kenyon Coleman I'm taking Sensy every time. Upgrading safety this offseason is a luxury in my opinion, not a necessity. Upgrading both trenches is a necessity though.

I disagree. A great safety can erase a lot of front 7 mistakes. We will regret passing on Elam.

kirkjrk · 01-10-2013

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Originally Posted by rkell87

pretty sure we have the 49th pick, we alternate with stealers each round

49th pick is correct although we will actually be picking 47th since Cleveland and New Orleans forfeited there 2nd round picks.

I don't know how you're going to get the 25th pick and 33rd pick as one team doesn't have both picks to trade. The values add up to 1300 but again one team does not have both those picks. Whar could be done is trade back to 23rd or 24th plus a 3rd rnd. pick, probably number 87 or 88. Then trade that 88th pick(150 points) and our second(49th--400 points) and then trade up to 34-36th pick. Many possible starters in the first 6-8 picks in the 2nd round.

IrishAnto · 01-10-2013

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Originally Posted by blackbull

I disagree. A great safety can erase a lot of front 7 mistakes. We will regret passing on Elam.

I don't think any of the safeties in this draft class are considered great.
If one was then he'd be gone by the 18th pick.