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01-11-2013
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Did Josh Brent cause all of this?
Did the whole Josh Brent fiasco trickled down to switching DC's and defensive alignments? We were going to be set at NT for years with Brent taking over the aging Ratliff when all of the sudden we were back to square one lining up guys like Lissemore at NT.
Did his bone head mistake cost all these guys their jobs?
"I could've done a $2 billion takeover (in another industry) with the capital I put in the Dallas Cowboys," he says. "I really could see (myself as) the idiot who had something real good, who blew it all to coach the Cowboys. I just knew that was going to be my legacy." Jerry Jones 9/14/2012
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/c...ore/57780004/1
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01-11-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silver
Did the whole Josh Brent fiasco trickled down to switching DC's and defensive alignments? We were going to be set at NT for years with Brent taking over the aging Ratliff when all of the sudden we were back to square one lining up guys like Lissemore at NT.
Did his bone head mistake cost all these guys their jobs?
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Seriously doubt it, but you bring up an interesting take on players' influence on coaching/scheme decisions.
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01-11-2013
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Redskins Forever
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Originally Posted by AMERICAS_FAN
Seriously doubt it, but you bring up an interesting take on players' influence on coaching/scheme decisions.
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I have to agree with you.
It had to be something more than that. If Brent was a beast ...we would have seen it. That is not the case here.
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01-11-2013
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maybe it's harder to find a bonifide nose tackle than it is to find a weakside 4-3 linebacker
"I could've done a $2 billion takeover (in another industry) with the capital I put in the Dallas Cowboys," he says. "I really could see (myself as) the idiot who had something real good, who blew it all to coach the Cowboys. I just knew that was going to be my legacy." Jerry Jones 9/14/2012
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/c...ore/57780004/1
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01-11-2013
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Originally Posted by silver
maybe it's harder to find a bonifide nose tackle than it is to find a weakside 4-3 linebacker
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That's true, imo.
I'm not sure that was a factor though.
On another note--when the Brent incident happened, I actually wondered if Ryan wasn't there as well. He's been known to get after it late himself and is buddy-buddy with the players.
But we would have know by now if he was there.
Last edited by DFWJC : 01-11-2013 at 08:29 PM.
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01-11-2013
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Originally Posted by DFWJC
That's true, imo.
I'm not sure that was a factor though.
On another note--when the Brent incident happened, I actually wondered if Ryan wasn't there as well. He's been known to get after it late himself and his buddy-buddy with the players.
But we would have know by now if he was there.
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maybe he was. players boozing it up with a crucial game upcoming was an indictment on whoever is responsible for the team's dicipline. add that to all the stupid penalties. i don't know, these are grown men who should know better.
"I could've done a $2 billion takeover (in another industry) with the capital I put in the Dallas Cowboys," he says. "I really could see (myself as) the idiot who had something real good, who blew it all to coach the Cowboys. I just knew that was going to be my legacy." Jerry Jones 9/14/2012
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/c...ore/57780004/1
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01-11-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silver
Did the whole Josh Brent fiasco trickled down to switching DC's and defensive alignments? We were going to be set at NT for years with Brent taking over the aging Ratliff when all of the sudden we were back to square one lining up guys like Lissemore at NT.
Did his bone head mistake cost all these guys their jobs?
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very interesting post. My answer would be..."probably not"...but this was a great thought-provoking idea and something we'll never know for sure.

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Jerry is nuttier than a bowl of Grape Nuts.
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01-11-2013
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Run-loving Dino
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The real question is did Brent save Garrett's job.
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01-11-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab
The real question is did Brent save Garrett's job.
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Good point.
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01-11-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab
The real question is did Brent save Garrett's job.
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you mean the way he handled the situation? overcoming adversity?
"I could've done a $2 billion takeover (in another industry) with the capital I put in the Dallas Cowboys," he says. "I really could see (myself as) the idiot who had something real good, who blew it all to coach the Cowboys. I just knew that was going to be my legacy." Jerry Jones 9/14/2012
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/c...ore/57780004/1
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01-11-2013
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Redskins rb ran for 200 yards in that last game. So yeah Brent cost them plenty. A win there to make the playoffs and nobody gets fired.
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01-11-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab
The real question is did Brent save Garrett's job.
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AJ Green's butter hands saved Garrett's job.
That wasn't some inspired coaching performance. That was an opponent choking away a game while simultaneously fooling lots of fans (and one GM) into thinking we were solid.
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01-12-2013
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I think Brent would make this 4-3 even better. I really like the idea of Brent at 1-tech and Hatcher at 3-tech, I really like that idea.
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01-12-2013
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Brent was nothing more than a role player.
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01-12-2013
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The Boognish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps
I have to agree with you.
It had to be something more than that. If Brent was a beast ...we would have seen it. That is not the case here.
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