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01-12-2013
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Don't worry about the salary cap
We are over the salary cap right now for next year, but with a few restructures and releases we will be right under the cap. But don't think that will stop jerry from signing a few big money free agents.
We can structure contracts for the future much like what Dallas did with Carr last year.
So if big money players are available that can fix the OL or defense, he will.
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01-12-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by supercowboy8
We are over the salary cap right now for next year, but with a few restructures and releases we will be right under the cap. But don't think that will stop jerry from signing a few big money free agents.
We can structure contracts for the future much like what Dallas did with Carr last year.
So if big money players are available that can fix the OL or defense, he will.
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Agree, and I think xwalker ran some rough numbers too.
I hope we get one OL and DL in FA. I'd prefer to get an OT with Free likely gone. And I'd like to replace Coleman and/or Spears with a better DT candidate.
In the Draft we can focus more on the OL, DL, and Safety positions. Plus, we'll need a RB and possibly WR as well.
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the big fly in your soup is the fact that the CAP IS NOT GOING UP. Push more money ahead and you have BIG problems. The cap will not be increasing substantially for several more years. 2015 was thought to be the year that it could go up but now they are saying it might not be till 2017 before there is a big increase.
When your cap does not go up then it makes everything a LOT HARDER.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burmafrd
the big fly in your soup is the fact that the CAP IS NOT GOING UP. Push more money ahead and you have BIG problems. The cap will not be increasing substantially for several more years. 2015 was thought to be the year that it could go up but now they are saying it might not be till 2017 before there is a big increase.
When your cap does not go up then it makes everything a LOT HARDER.
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wrong, contracts are set for the future so Dallas knows how much their cap will be in 2014, 2015, and 2016. As contracts expire their cap goes down.
Also players base salaries change every year. Dallas might be right at the cap for next year but in two years thay are set to be 20 million under the cap.
you can spread money out any way you want, the base salary isn't the same every year. So we can pay a young big FA low salary this year, and big next year then low again and make it large at the end. Thats our contracts are set in the NFL.
Just look at Brandon Carr's contract
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/brandon-carr/
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01-12-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burmafrd
the big fly in your soup is the fact that the CAP IS NOT GOING UP.
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But it isn't expected to go down, either.
And 2013 is the only year right now where the team is over the cap, which is mostly due to the contracts of two players, Tony Romo ($17.228M) and Brandon Carr ($16.3M).
2013: $135.8M
2014: $113.4M
2015: $89.7M
So the Cowboys look to be in good shape with the cap long term, IMO.
Some big new contracts will be added in forthcoming seasons, but older players with bloated salaries will also be released.
Last edited by Bluefin : 01-12-2013 at 03:31 PM.
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01-12-2013
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Originally Posted by Bluefin
But it isn't expected to go down, either.
And 2013 is the only year right now where the team is over the cap, which is mostly due to the contracts of two players, Tony Romo ($17.228M) and Brandon Carr ($16.3M).
2013: $135.8M
2014: $113.4M
2015: $89.7M
So the Cowboys look to be in good shape with the cap long term, IMO.
Some big new contracts will be added n forthcoming seasons, but older players with bloated salaries will also be released.
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This
We can set up salaries in contracts to be higher in 2014, 2015, and 2016.
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01-12-2013
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THE BIG DOG
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefin
And 2013 is the only year right now where the team is over the cap, which is mostly due to the contracts of two players, Tony Romo ($17.228M) and Brandon Carr ($16.3M).
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The impact of Romo's contract will be lessened when he get his new deal this spring.
This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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01-12-2013
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#8
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I don't think you can totally disregard it. There is still some limit on how much you can spend it's just spread across other years.
With our situation however it probably makes sense to kick the can down the road. We may have 3-5 years with Ware, Romo and Witten still playing at a decently high level. Get as much talent as you can now then pay the piper once you have to rebuild.
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01-12-2013
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you guys need to understand the cap better.
NO ones salary will go down. Now you can cut people but you still have to pay off the rest of the cap charge.
Between the $5 million Mara tax and Free and Rat and company, we have very little maneuvering room since we HAVE to look ahead to contacts likely coming in the next couple of years like Lee and others. And Dez will have to be accounted for as well. His contract is up in 2014 I believe. And if he keeps going as he ended this season that will be a hard one to swallow.
Romo's new contract will have to be carefully structured and we will have to pay him more then we are paying him now.
Adam will be doing this soon and you will find that he will have the same concerns
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01-12-2013
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So.....continue shoving money onto future years because that approach has really worked out for Dallas so far.
How about instead of pretending like the team is at some mystical hump and a single player can get them over they just face facts and build the team the way it should be done.
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01-12-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoofbite
So.....continue shoving money onto future years because that approach has really worked out for Dallas so far.
How about instead of pretending like the team is at some mystical hump and a single player can get them over they just face facts and build the team the way it should be done.
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 That's what every team does.
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"The restructures are built in. Everybody’s making a big to do about this. I don’t know why."- Stephen Jones
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01-12-2013
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Originally Posted by speedkilz88
 That's what every team does.
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no some teams actually have plans that are steady and logical
unlike the Boys
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01-12-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speedkilz88
 That's what every team does.
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First and foremost, there are teams with ridiculous amounts of free space every single year so no it's not "what every team does".
Secondly, there are also teams who choose to do so in order to operate beyond their typical capacity.
Dallas does it out of necessity which is not what every team does.
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01-12-2013
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The Boognish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by supercowboy8
wrong, contracts are set for the future so Dallas knows how much their cap will be in 2014, 2015, and 2016. As contracts expire their cap goes down.
Also players base salaries change every year. Dallas might be right at the cap for next year but in two years thay are set to be 20 million under the cap.
you can spread money out any way you want, the base salary isn't the same every year. So we can pay a young big FA low salary this year, and big next year then low again and make it large at the end. Thats our contracts are set in the NFL.
Just look at Brandon Carr's contract
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/brandon-carr/
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The CBA held some stuff static in the first two years and then I believe it becomes dynamic again. They just signed TV contracts for over $3b AAV.
I am not an economist nor familiar enough with the NFL's machinations but I think their revenue has been increasing and the split is the split.
“Cynicism is nothing but intellectual cowardice.”
- Henry Rollins
Planning to fail is not the same as planning for failure.
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01-12-2013
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#15
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Originally Posted by burmafrd
you guys need to understand the cap better.
Adam will be doing this soon and you will find that he will have the same concerns
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We are all looking forward to AdamJT13's 2013 salary cap post.
But he did mention 4 days ago that the team will have room to spend.
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Originally Posted by AdamJT13
It wouldn't have to be a first-round pick, and we will have free-agent money.
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