Keep hearing we need a Warren Sapp-type

[blindzebra]

But really what we are missing is our Booger McFarland.

I have always thought Ratliff would be just like Sapp in a 4-3 and with Lissemore being a similar player we have a nice rotation there.

What we don't have is that big booty DT that will keep our LBs clean with Brent likely done playing in the NFL.

[CATCH17]

I think there is a chance Josh Brent is playing next year.

Didn't Leonard Little and Donte Stallworth do the exact same thing?

[JustDezIt]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

I think there is a chance Josh Brent is playing next year.

Didn't Leonard Little and Donte Stallworth do the exact same thing?

I'm pretty sure Donte was suspended for a year. Not exactly the same things tho.

edit: yep. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4396130

and leonard 8 games

"In 1998, when St. Louis defensive end Leonard Little pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the death of Susan Gutweiler, he received a suspension of eight games without pay. No one asked Gutweiler's son, left motherless after Little decided to drive drunk through the streets of St. Louis, if the ruling was fair."


Brent wont be playing for a while even if he doesn't do a long sentence based on statements Goodell made in the Stallworth case

"There is no question that your actions had tragic consequences to an innocent man and his family, and that you have violated both the Substances of Abuse and Personal Conduct Policies," Goodell continued. "In that respect, you are clearly guilty of conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the NFL.

"Your conduct endangered yourself and others, leading to the death of an innocent man. The NFL and NFL players must live with the stain that you have placed on their reputations."

Goodell said he didn't take into account the sentence in determining that Stallworth violated the league's substance abuse and personal conduct policies.

[CowboysYanksLakers]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

But really what we are missing is our Booger McFarland.

I have always thought Ratliff would be just like Sapp in a 4-3 and with Lissemore being a similar player we have a nice rotation there.

What we don't have is that big booty DT that will keep our LBs clean with Brent likely done playing in the NFL.

McFarland wasn't that big though....

[morasp]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

But really what we are missing is our Booger McFarland.

I have always thought Ratliff would be just like Sapp in a 4-3 and with Lissemore being a similar player we have a nice rotation there.

What we don't have is that big booty DT that will keep our LBs clean with Brent likely done playing in the NFL.

I was thinking Ratliff too. In fact he should be better in the 4-3 then in the 3-4. It always seems like they didn't know if he should be a DE or NT. I don't think we would need to use a first round pick to get a wide body at DT.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

But really what we are missing is our Booger McFarland.

I have always thought Ratliff would be just like Sapp in a 4-3 and with Lissemore being a similar player we have a nice rotation there.

What we don't have is that big booty DT that will keep our LBs clean with Brent likely done playing in the NFL.

McFarland 6-0, 300

Lissemore 6-3, 303

Ratliff (2012) 6-4, 303

[GloryDaysRBack]

negative

our pass rush stinks

combine that with the tamp 2 defense and you have crap for results

we need better pass rushers...we also need that idiot ratliff to stay healthy for a change

[RS12]

Brian Price 6-1 303

[StanleySpadowski]

People seem to confuse the fact that Sapp, Brooks, Lynch...were the best players on that defense with those being the most important positions.

Kiffin tailored that defense to the talent he had. He'll do the same in Dallas.

[JoeyBoy718]

The Commish would probably suspend Brent for a year after he is released from jail. So if he does a year in jail and misses all of next season, he would probably miss the following season as well due to suspension. I highly doubt Brent plays next year and probably not the year after that.

[TheFinisher]

Originally Posted by RS12

Brian Price 6-1 303

I wouldn't count on Price, not even for quality depth. I mean I hope he can make it back but when you consider the injury he had it's not something I'd bet on:

Late in 2010, Price became the first NFL player to undergo a radical procedure screwing his hamstring to the bone while also attaching the pelvic bones to themselves.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Was he any good pre injury?

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack

negative

our pass rush stinks

combine that with the tamp 2 defense and you have crap for results

we need better pass rushers...we also need that idiot ratliff to stay healthy for a change

Ratliff hasn't been a good player in 3 years. But he's Warren Sapp in 2013.

[RS12]

Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack

Was he any good pre injury?

Price, a defensive tackle, was the 35th overall pick by Tampa Bay in 2010 but his career has been stalled by injury and misfortune. He needed radical pelvis surgeries after his rookie year to keep his hamstrings attached to his pelvis. His sister died last spring in a car accident, and he also reportedly had an incident with Mark Barron in a meeting room.

He started 14 games in 2011 and had three sacks. He was traded to Chicago last summer but was among the Bears’ final cuts and did not sign with another team during the year.

Price is an intriguing signing because he is still young and the Cowboys have defensive line issues going forward with Jay Ratliff’s health and Josh Brent’s intoxication manslaughter charge.

He was a second rounder in Tampa 2010. Played and produced after the surgery. Dont know what they really have, probably neither do the Cowboys.

[AsthmaField]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Ratliff hasn't been a good player in 3 years. But he's Warren Sapp in 2013.

He will take less of a pounding in the 43 than he did as a 34 NT.

Yes he still played 1-gap at the NT position, but the way offensive lines attacked him will be different from what they do against him in the 43 as a 3tech.

Will it make much of a difference in his performance? I don't know. Could he still be over the hill? Yes. Will he be? I don't know. Could he be rejuvenated playing in a scheme that better suits him? Yes, but we don't know that for sure.

All in all, I'm hoping but not expecting him to play at a pro bowl level again.