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01-14-2013
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#46
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1st Round Pick
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Originally Posted by erod
What scares me is how that zone scheme got owned last night in New England, and with better lineman.
Of course, it's working in Washington.
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Well it fits Tyron's strength and it fit's Demarco's strength as a runner.
I have no problem with the run plays we use but I do not like the formations we use and I do not like the fact that we switched to a more "athletic" style of lineman only to keep trying to cram it up the gut.
I just think with where the NFL is going and where College is that it would be better to use that scheme.
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01-14-2013
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#47
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
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Originally Posted by erod
I think this is part of the reason Jerry likes Garrett so much. That and being a friend of the family and former player.
Most hot commodity coaches don't want to come here and cost a lot of money. This one did want to come here, so Jerry wrote the check. He doesn't prefer to pay head coaches much in general.
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But I don't agree with that. I wouldn't want to come here but I haven't seen any evidence of any coach or player feeling that way.
Jerry knows what he needs to do to hire one of these big name head coaches. He did it with Parcells. He can do it again. It's just a question of if and when he wants to.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-14-2013
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#48
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by CATCH17
Well it fits Tyron's strength and it fit's Demarco's strength as a runner.
I have no problem with the run plays we use but I do not like the formations we use and I do not like the fact that we switched to a more "athletic" style of lineman only to keep trying to cram it up the gut.
I just think with where the NFL is going and where College is that it would be better to use that scheme.
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Yes, because when you sign Nate Livings and MacKenzy Bernadeau you are making your OL much more athletic.
You're talking over your head.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-14-2013
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#49
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Originally Posted by CATCH17
I don't think Jerry pulls the rug out from under Garrett just to give Callahan the playcalling duties.
Our offensive scheme needs to be trashed.
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well I think a WC style would be good, and would not mind Callahan as our playcaller right now. Right now, I know one thing and that is, like you imply, JG needs to not call the offense.
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01-14-2013
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#50
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jul 2011 |
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Originally Posted by Risen Star
But I don't agree with that. I wouldn't want to come here but I haven't seen any evidence of any coach or player feeling that way.
Jerry knows what he needs to do to hire one of these big name head coaches. He did it with Parcells. He can do it again. It's just a question of if and when he wants to.
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True.
But remember, there are only 32 of these gigs in the world, and that star still resembles the Yankee pinstripes.
Why do mosquitos keep flying into the light when all their friends keep dying?
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01-14-2013
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#51
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Run-loving Dino
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Originally Posted by erod
I think this is part of the reason Jerry likes Garrett so much. That and being a friend of the family and former player.
Most hot commodity coaches don't want to come here and cost a lot of money. This one did want to come here, so Jerry wrote the check. He doesn't prefer to pay head coaches much in general.
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Jerry likes him so much because he's "comfortable" with him. He employed his dad and he employed him for years. He knows Jason is going to know who's boss in this organization.
That's what was so funny about all the "Jerry has turned over this franchise to Jason!" talk from a couple of years ago when Garrett got the gig. You think Jerry is going to plot and scheme for a decade or more to hire someone who is going to push him out or even push against him too hard? It's a hilarious concept.
But it's wrong to say no one wants to come here. The coach in my sig is one of the best coaches of the last couple of decades and was practically openly campaigning for the job.
Ivy League
Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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01-14-2013
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#52
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detoxed
Years Donated 2004, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
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Originally Posted by Hostile
I very highly doubt Jason Garrett is pissed off.
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while the article can be "clever" it screams AGENDA cause of all the "ego-stroking" "clutesy playcalling" that said author is not likely highly qualified to judge, just read what the media says and he picks what he wants to say the same thing.
at least he's saying it more creative, but same thing.
iceberg
i can’t make a mind see what a heart looks past in hope
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01-14-2013
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#53
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Right Kind of Guy
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
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Originally Posted by erod
Even if he has to fire his brother?
I'm not saying a disagree with the organizational changes. I'm just trying to get into Garrett's head.
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John Garrett has already told Jason he hopes to return to the college ranks as a HC one day.
I've fired my brother twice. It doesn't hurt that bad.
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01-14-2013
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#54
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2008 |
Location: | Lewisville, Tx. |
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Originally Posted by Risen Star
He had other head coaching opportunities before Dallas. So if money was the motivating factor, he'd have taken that pay raise.
He's here because this is where he always wanted to be.
If it were me, this would be the last place I'd want to be as a coach or player.
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I agree. Who in their right mind, could put up with the constant whining on here? 
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01-14-2013
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#55
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by jjktkk
I agree. Who in their right mind, could put up with the constant whining on here? 
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A real coach would never peak in here. I suspect Wade had over 2,000 secret posts.
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01-14-2013
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#56
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The Actualist
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
Posts: | 6,003 |
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Originally Posted by jjktkk
I agree. Who in their right mind, could put up with the constant whining on here? 
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It has gotten to the point that working for less money and being on a team besides Dallas is optimal to ones career beit Coach or Player.
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01-14-2013
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#57
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Senior Member
Joined: | Sep 2004 |
Location: | Orlando, FL |
Posts: | 10,649 |
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Originally Posted by CATCH17
Basically that he was in Jerry's ear all season about getting Monte Kiffin in here and that we would never be able to get a coach like Kiffin with the current rules for hiring a coach.
He sounded like he really didn't like Parcells and was very disapointed we moved away from the Mike Zimmer defense.
You should hear him talk about our defenses and Zimmer from the early to mid 2000's. He sounds like we innovated something.
You can listen to the interview on that dallas cowboy fanatic's website.
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And somehow that is something that is sufficient enough to mean that Kiffin was a Jerry hire.
Give me a break.
YR
The integrity of the Dallas Sports Media can be summed up in this quote 'I've gotta be the bad guy on CBS11 and my radio job on ESPN. I don't have to be the bad guy here.' - Steve Dennis
Legend of Kirby Dar Dar Blog
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01-14-2013
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#58
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Senior Member
Joined: | Sep 2004 |
Location: | Orlando, FL |
Posts: | 10,649 |
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Originally Posted by SilverStarCowboy
It has gotten to the point that working for less money and being on a team besides Dallas is optimal to ones career beit Coach or Player.
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Could have fooled me.
That alone is illogical just because no coach every truly leaves the Cowboys. If Jerry was so unbearable, they would realize that and take less money to get out of town.
Except, that doesn't happen.
YR
The integrity of the Dallas Sports Media can be summed up in this quote 'I've gotta be the bad guy on CBS11 and my radio job on ESPN. I don't have to be the bad guy here.' - Steve Dennis
Legend of Kirby Dar Dar Blog
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01-14-2013
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#59
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2012 |
Location: | Denver |
Posts: | 364 |
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Originally Posted by erod
Imagine, the name on your business card reads " Jason Garrett, Head Coach, Dallas Cowboys".
You've had your run of the mill now for a good while now. You've been the rare prodigal coach, despite a paper-thin resume, compared to other unaccomplished head coaches before you. Incredibly, you actually got hired and paid handsomely just to be the offensive coordinator BEFORE the last head coach was hired.....how dadgum ego-strokingly cool is that!
Kiss your bad self.
Now, you man the position held in posterity for your eventual annointment. Two years in, it's been a rocky, anguished road behind that stoic face you put forth in public time and again. You're making over the roster without "making over the roster". You're rebuilding the culture without "rebuilding the culture". You're managing the whims and follies of a half-cocked, aging, paranoid man whose means and scruples know little bounds. [View Full Quote]
You know what the problems are. Rebuilding a secondary was a good idea, just like drafting an offensive tackle and a finding a runner was a year before. Just like ridding the team of declining players with names your General Manager loved because he recognized their names in the newspaper. You've tip-toed lightly, carefully, respectfully.
And you know this isn't finished. Perhaps you're not the best playcaller - it's possible, even for an Ivy Leaguer - but who really knows for sure? What plays work with a front line made of paper mache? Your quarterback is your best ally and worst enemy, because he gives your knucklehead owner/GM the idea that this offense should be better than it realistically is.
You need a little more time, but two 8-8s later, all hell is breaking loose.
Jerry done went and hired the Godfather of a new defense, so your input on that side of the ball is certainly squelched. Maybe you were for it, but it's not hitting Twitter that way. New faces that you won't select will be roaming the halls on that side of the hall soon. That's a done deal.
OK, fine, you say. Better him than the all-talk-and-no-defense yahoo that was over there last year. Tired of the cutesy playsheets and televised f-bombs flying after lucky drops on third down anyway. Better for the defensive personnel on hand, particularly when draft picks and focus needs to be spent on the offensive line soon.
But, again, you didn't really make that hire, and the owner is making sure everybody knows it. And now, rumors are swirling of a new offensive coordinator. A new playcaller. A new tight ends coach, which will unseat not just one of your coaches, but your brother at that. Heavy changes are coming, and you think you're going to be involved, but you're not entirely sure.
You're likely fighting to keep your troops in tact and the changes in house the best you can. Let Callahan call the plays, perhaps, so you can keep it as YOUR staff and YOUR offense essentially. Whatever staff tweaks will be your doing, and the upcoming draft and offseason will reflect the needs of an offense sorely lacking fat guys with good feet that move people.
This way, YOU are still presiding over the sideline as the current and future leader of this football operation.
But you can hear pots and pans flying around behind the closed door at the end of the hall. Something's going on. The madman is full throttle on an offseason binge, and he's listening to everybody and nobody at the same time. Your buddy, Stephen, just shrugs his shoulders and looks at you with empty eyes. This is not new to him, but he feels your pain.
He said "uncomfortable." This is getting more than uncomfortable; it's starting to piss you off.
Is he trying to run you off? Has he lost all faith in you? Does he understand anything about the needs of this team he put together for you to unravel and rebuild? Did he even remember to wear underwear this morning? Is anybody listening to you at all?
Do you even want to be here anymore?
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Spot on once again with another slice of the circus. Has JG said one thing to the public since the Ryan firing (besides the perverbial "we're going in a different direction")?
Erod - Your take here is basically the same as those talking heads all over ESPN/NFL network spewing from athletes, retired coaches, retired cowboys...etc.
At this point, I'm unfortunately inclined to believe them/you until I hear JG get in front of the mic to rip, "Hell ya, I got Kiff and we're excitied about our D. I had detailed meetings with him and we have a very good plan for our D. I'm still looking at other adjustments on offense to help improve our team and at this point I have nothing else".
On record, I do want JG back for another season but in order to prosper, he has to have the public authority. I think he has to grow some onions and publiclly own all these decisions that are presently going down. His silence is only confirming that JJ is pulling all the strings.
Perhaps JG is just trying to save his job and he's trying to dodge JJs bullets until the smoke clears (calling plays or not).
I guess the most frustrating thing is the rumors and the silence from those that are accused and JJ's press conferences which are mostly clueless only making it sound worse.
Perhaps JJ is setting everyone up? Hope so, but from what I have seen in the past, doubt it.
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