DC.com: Draft show 1/18

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by Hostile

Let me share a tip here. If we were picking in the bottom half of the Draft, it would be a weak draft that was devoid of talent for us that late. If we were picking in the top 5, it would be a weak draft that meant we were going to take a guy who wasn't up to par and need.

The fact of the matter is at 18 there are plenty of options for this team.

He's not saying it's a weak draft and that there aren't options. He's saying that 18, you might run out of guys you put 1st round grades on, that's a bad position for obvious reasons.

You'd like to take a guy in the 1st you have a 1st round grade on, but (almost) every years teams draft 1 through 32, so obviously it doesn't mean you bail on the selection.

[slomoxn]

Originally Posted by junk

The 4th round always seems to be the Cowboys gamble round. Take a shot at a small school guy or a guy with great athleticism.

Stanback
AOA
Arkin
Matt Johnson
Free
McGee

Almost seems like they are just trying to hit home runs in that round.

looking at that list they should just draft bpa and go for the double because so far they are 0 for 5 with 6 still pending.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

Wasnt there a report or something that said if Dallas wouldve stayed it wouldve been Brockers and not DeCastro? I thought i read that somewhere on this site.

yes, Brockers at 18, Wagner at 45 if they stayed in those spots and draft went as planned.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by TheCount

He's not saying it's a weak draft and that there aren't options. He's saying that 18, you might run out of guys you put 1st round grades on, that's a bad position for obvious reasons.

You'd like to take a guy in the 1st you have a 1st round grade on, but (almost) every years teams draft 1 through 32, so obviously it doesn't mean you bail on the selection.

He's clearly indicating there are only 15 or 16 guys with true r1 grades this year.

That makes zero sense because he admits he hasn't watched many of the players yet.

If heading into the draft there are 15 or 16 r1 guys in the Dallas board then it will be tough. We can't afford to move up and will need to hope a couple other teams reach ahead of us.

But end of the day a player at 18 can and will start in this team or the drafting went wrong.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by jterrell

He's clearly indicating there are only 15 or 16 guys with true r1 grades this year.

That makes zero sense because he admits he hasn't watched many of the players yet.

If heading into the draft there are 15 or 16 r1 guys in the Dallas board then it will be tough. We can't afford to move up and will need to hope a couple other teams reach ahead of us.

But end of the day a player at 18 can and will start in this team or the drafting went wrong.

I didn't listen, so I don't know if he said there were only "15 or 16" guys, like you say, LatinMind certainly didn't put that in his recap. I do know that scouts don't have 32 guys with 1st round grades going into a draft, so I think he was saying that based on his past experience, the 18th spot might be a tough spot to find a guy sitting there that you had a 1st round grade on.

Again, a team having just 15 (or so) players with 1st round grades is normal. It doesn't mean you don't see a 16th guy you would be happy to take when your number is called.

[big dog cowboy]

Originally Posted by jterrell

If heading into the draft there are 15 or 16 r1 guys in the Dallas board then it will be tough. We can't afford to move up and will need to hope a couple other teams reach ahead of us.

It happens every year.

[The Realist]

We do best in rounds in 3-4 taking postions where it is easy to get guys on the field early (3-4 DE, RB) vs WR, OL.......

[Eddie]

Originally Posted by jterrell

yes, Brockers at 18, Wagner at 45 if they stayed in those spots and draft went as planned.

Just outta curiosity, how did these guys perform last year?

[Hoofbite]

I love how every draft there's only a few players who can give you "value".

Picking any later than like 14 and you're screwed, apparently.

[rwalters31]

Originally Posted by speedkilz88

DeCastro was also over-rated by a lot of people last year.

He was still 6 levels higher than we had on the OL last year.

[funkytown]

Originally Posted by Eddie

Just outta curiosity, how did these guys perform last year?

Well Wagner was part of a great Seattle defense. He had 140 tackles, 3 int, 2sacks. 22 years old .

Would be awesome to have him on this team with Lee and Carter. Would be the best young linebacker unit in the league. By a long shot.

Brockers was decent this year too. Had 4 sacks.

Both of these guys would fill holes in this new 4-3 defense. But we would still be sitting there with a huge hole at Cornerback.

[reddyuta]

Originally Posted by The Realist

We do best in rounds in 3-4 taking postions where it is easy to get guys on the field early (3-4 DE, RB) vs WR, OL.......

You are sooooo wrong.just take a look at our 4th rd picks,oh the humanity.....

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

I love how every draft there's only a few players who can give you "value".

Picking any later than like 14 and you're screwed, apparently.

My favorite is when people blame bad draft classes on picking at the bottom of each round.

Apparently a late 1st round pick isn't higher than an early 2nd. A late 2nd isn't higher than an early 3rd. And so on.