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Old 01-27-2013   #136
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Jones was a star running back at North Little Rock HS ,

He was a co-captain of the 1964 National Championship football team.

He was an all-SW Conf O lineman

24 years experience in NFL as GM

3 SB wins

13 seasons with Playoff appearance

8 NFCE champs


now give me the list of GMs with better resumes....and see if you can respond without saying "17 years and counting" or "Jimmy did it"
Stephen Jones, is that you?
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Old 01-27-2013   #137
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I love Jerry but he does step it from time to time, not everytime. Garretts offense is struggling on the details and and his HCing is struggling with the detail side of it. bringing in a OC to call plays or getting calahan to do it, could be a huge blessing in disguise for Jason. Jaosn Garrett studies great leaders of teams and does his best to instill their principals on his teams. This move could very well free up RHG to be the leader we all hope he can be.
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Old 01-27-2013   #138
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I post this because A.) I agree and B.) I believe Glazer to be the best "insider" in the business. He's tight with so many NFL players and I can't remember the last story this guy missed on.

He was on the "Petros and Money" radio show in Fox Sports Radio tonight. They asked him about the moves and he said Jerry is stripping power from Garrett with the coaching moves he's made and that Cowboys players in Hawaii at the Pro Bowl are wondering what's going on. Also said people he's talked to in the NFL are confused by the Kiffin hire.

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Well, Glazer is one of the few guys that actually has some inside info and he doesnt just make crap up like Werder does. So, if he says that Jerry is stripping powers from Garrett, you can believe it.

Now, is this a good thing or a bad thing? I think this is a good thing no matter which side of the fence you sit on regarding Garrett. If you think he is a complete idiot and has no business being HC, then you are happy Jerry is stripping Garrett of responsibilities. If you are a Garrett supporter you are happy as well because Jerry chose to strip Garrett of powers instead of just flat out fire him.

What I think happened was that Jerry and Jason had a nice long talk on the plane (after everybody else was told to get off) and Jerry broke it down for Jason, that he desperately wants him to succeed but 8-8 seasons are not going to be tolerated.

That brings us to 2013 and even the most hard core Garrett supporters realize that this is the make or break season. There is virtually no way Jerry can keep Garrett on and sell it to the fans if this team does not make the playoffs. Simply stated, if this team does not make the playoffs Jason Garrett will be fired at season's end.

I am pretty sure this was explained to Garrett on that plan in no uncertain terms.
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Old 01-27-2013   #139
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Stephen Jones, is that you?
It's a complete distortion. Any fan who paid attention when Jerry bought the team knows he wasn't an active GM during the dynasty. When you have to use those years to justify these, it's absolute desperation.

His 24 years as a GM doesn't mean anything. Why? Because he didn't earn the position and didn't have to perform to keep it. Give him 44 years at the helm, it'll mean just as little.

He played college ball. That's great but does not make him a qualified candidate to head the football operations for any NFL team.

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It's a complete distortion. Any fan who paid attention when Jerry bought the team knows he wasn't an active GM during the dynasty. When you have to use those years to justify these, it's absolute desperation.

His 24 years as a GM doesn't mean anything. Why? Because he didn't earn the position and didn't have to perform to keep it. Give him 44 years at the helm, it'll mean just as little.

He played college ball. That's great but does not make him a qualified candidate to head the football operations for any NFL team.
While I tend to agree with you, its kinda a moot point.
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Old 01-27-2013   #141
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Default thanks jerrah....

you've turned this team into a .500 laughingstock and best of all pitted cowboys fans against each other. We are the Raiders of the NFC....have been for awhile now. Commitment to excrement indeed.
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While I tend to agree with you, its kinda a moot point.
I don't think the real reason why the Cowboys aren't any good anymore is a moot point. It may be a tired point, or a frustrating point but not a moot point.

There is simply no way to justify the GM and the VP of Personnel on this team having no prior background in personnel. And an even harder case to explain how they've held those positions through all this futility. Not even an ounce of concern for their job security.

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I don't think the real reason why the Cowboys aren't any good anymore is a moot point. It may be a tired point, or a frustrating point but not a moot point.

There is simply no way to justify the GM and the VP of Personnel on this team having no prior background in personnel. And an even harder case to explain how they've held those positions through all this futility. Not even an ounce of concern for their job security.
Well I mean its a moot point because it is not going to change, unless Jerry decides to sell the team and I dont see that happenning either.
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Well I mean its a moot point because it is not going to change, unless Jerry decides to sell the team and I dont see that happenning either.
You don't think Stephen may change things once he takes over?

I hold out hope that he will.

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It's a complete distortion. Any fan who paid attention when Jerry bought the team knows he wasn't an active GM during the dynasty. When you have to use those years to justify these, it's absolute desperation.
It's not even debatable IMO. Anyone who thinks Jerry came straight from the Oil business into the NFL being an active GM is absurd. Jerry was extremely green in the early years and deferred much more to Jimmy and the coaches. As his knowledge base grew thru osmosis, so too did his ego and by the mid 90s he was ready to take over. Start 17 years of misery.

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I don't think the real reason why the Cowboys aren't any good anymore is a moot point. It may be a tired point, or a frustrating point but not a moot point.

There is simply no way to justify the GM and the VP of Personnel on this team having no prior background in personnel. And an even harder case to explain how they've held those positions through all this futility. Not even an ounce of concern for their job security.
Try clickiing your heels together, and wish Jerry and Stephen away.
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Well I mean its a moot point because it is not going to change, unless Jerry decides to sell the team and I dont see that happenning either.
There yea go.
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You can act like no one makes a difference but we do. Everyone makes a difference, and Jerry Jones changes with the wind. ... or whatever you want to call it...hot air.


Plus that 10% drop in public viewing locally for 2012 should help. Could be another 10% on the way for 2013.


We have to all stick together to make a difference....but everyone, every single fan is counted on to save our franchise...there is no other hope.


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Instead, I'd rather focus on the things that can and are changing and not worry about who's changing them..
So what exactly do you think YOU can change posting on a message board?
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Old 01-27-2013   #150
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No personal call outs please.
Did you know there are only 5000 Snow Leopards in the wild now and they are confined to Central Asia? However, the effective global population (those likely to reproduce) is less than half that number.
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