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01-28-2013
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#106
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mike fisher @fishsports
Real Derek Dooley #Cowboys story? He's got an agent. Agent's got a media pal. Pal dutifully (and prematurely) reports 'done deal.'
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01-28-2013
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#107
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Bruce Feldman @BFeldmanCBS
RT @JimmyHyams Derek Dooley informed me reports that he has taken Dallas job are not true. Said neither party has made a decision
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01-28-2013
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#108
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Zone Scribe
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Sounds like the Cowboys are keeping him as a back burner candidate in case someone they like better (Jackson??) falls through.

Despite labeling myself a "realist", no one understands my pain or appreciates my special truth. Stupid world.
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01-28-2013
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#109
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Hiring Dooley pretty much guarantees we won't be drafting Tyler Bray. He and Dooley hated each other at Tennessee and got into it a few times. Then Dooley benched him twice and Bray obviously wasn't happy about it. We probably wouldn't have drafted him anyways, but this assures it.
As for Dooley, the one thing I know about him is that he holds his players accountable. He's a no BS kind of guy and definitely brings some discipline. We'll see how this plays out.
"The Dallas Cowboys have 2 types of plays in their playbook: Passing plays, and running plays." -John Madden
Last edited by IAmLegend : 01-28-2013 at 02:52 PM.
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01-28-2013
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#110
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Garrett needs his buddies around him. Typical of most coaches really. Parcells not only wanted "his" coaches but he also wanted "his" players.
Problem is some of 'garrett's guys are country clubers that can't communicate with the homies we have to draft.
Robinson did well with Dez. That was Garrett's idea and it worked. However, these reports from Tennessee have me worried the friend element in this hire was more important than the communication element.
I don't care if Garrett's brother did get a job in TB. Bennett's leaving is still on him and I'd hate to see Dez's play suffer because the new coach knows more about caviar and golf clubs than he does about how to inspire "today's youth"
"Young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know."
Bill Klem when a pitcher questioned a called ball to Rogers Hornsby.
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01-28-2013
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#111
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Originally Posted by acheman
Lifelong UT fan here: I liked Dooley as a man, but as a coach?= meh.
Faude Raviz (spelling?) ripped Dooley a new one after he was fired here. Stated he was always playing the blame it on the other guy routine and basically quit on this team (see this past years Mizzou & Vandy games as evidence) hoping to be fired. My observation: the guy never had a response for what another team was doing, in terms of in-game adjustments. Post game sound-bites were redundently void of answers as well. Hope Garrett got some input from Witten and not just his own past working experience with Dooley.
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two peas from the same pod...
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01-28-2013
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#112
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Lonely Stranger
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
Garrett needs his buddies around him. Typical of most coaches really. Parcells not only wanted "his" coaches but he also wanted "his" players.
Problem is some of 'garrett's guys are country clubers that can't communicate with the homies we have to draft.
Robinson did well with Dez. That was Garrett's idea and it worked. However, these reports from Tennessee have me worried the friend element in this hire was more important than the communication element.
I don't care if Garrett's brother did get a job in TB. Bennett's leaving is still on him and I'd hate to see Dez's play suffer because the new coach knows more about caviar and golf clubs than he does about how to inspire "today's youth"
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Wrong! Bennett's leaving was because he sucked. He is a buffoon that has the physical skills to be one of the greats, however, he has the mind of a child and does not take football as serious as he should.
The time I saw him roll his eyes at the camera when the Garrett bro was showing him how to hold on to the ball is what got me to dis-liking him from the start.
You only have one chance to make a good first impression, and Bennett failed miserably.
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Predicting the future can be very hard, mostly because it hasn’t happened yet."
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01-29-2013
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#113
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Originally Posted by AbeBeta
You've met him?
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Unfortunately....many times.
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01-29-2013
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#114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IAmLegend
Hiring Dooley pretty much guarantees we won't be drafting Tyler Bray. He and Dooley hated each other at Tennessee and got into it a few times. Then Dooley benched him twice and Bray obviously wasn't happy about it. We probably wouldn't have drafted him anyways, but this assures it.
As for Dooley, the one thing I know about him is that he holds his players accountable. He's a no BS kind of guy and definitely brings some discipline. We'll see how this plays out.
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Actually, the last part of your post is completely wrong. My experiences with him were all about the legal troubles his players were in (constantly, although most were not super serious). In fact, several players were involved in a bar brawl and gang stomped (literally) an off-duty Police Officer who had been hired for security, causing a quite serious skull fracture. Dooley flatly refused any form of cooperation with the local police department and had the audacity to flop a race card when there were several witnesses to the incident. I represented another client in the fray and, when yet another attorney threatened him with being subpoened, he folded like a card table and continually pleaded with the other attorney to be spared from appearing and being exposed as a POS in open court (he's still licensed as an attorney from what he said). He's anything BUT a stand-up guy, in any facet, and by his conduct, gave tacit approval of the abhorrent conduct like the bar brawl. The players were a constant source of income due to all the trouble they had to have cleaned up.
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01-29-2013
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#115
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Originally Posted by trueblue1687
Actually, the last part of your post is completely wrong. My experiences with him were all about the legal troubles his players were in (constantly, although most were not super serious). In fact, several players were involved in a bar brawl and gang stomped (literally) an off-duty Police Officer who had been hired for security, causing a quite serious skull fracture. Dooley flatly refused any form of cooperation with the local police department and had the audacity to flop a race card when there were several witnesses to the incident. I represented another client in the fray and, when yet another attorney threatened him with being subpoened, he folded like a card table and continually pleaded with the other attorney to be spared from appearing and being exposed as a POS in open court (he's still licensed as an attorney from what he said). He's anything BUT a stand-up guy, in any facet, and by his conduct, gave tacit approval of the abhorrent conduct like the bar brawl. The players [View Full Quote]were a constant source of income due to all the trouble they had to have cleaned up.
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Wow! Great info, thanks for this.
Certainly doesn't seem like the right-kind-of-guy.
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01-29-2013
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#116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trueblue1687
Unfortunately....many times.
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And you've met many other coaches and have a ton of experience in coaching so you can make an informed judgement then?
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