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01-29-2013
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#31
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No surprise... He's got a lot to prove in 2013
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01-29-2013
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#32
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Joined: | Jul 2011 |
Location: | Albany NY |
Posts: | 218 |
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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub
Well, considering Rex Ryan has been gifted Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow, and their GM sucks.. He did get his team to the AFC championship game and is, contrary to popular belief, well respected among the league as a coach...
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Twice Rex has been to the AFC Championship game. But I cant give Rex any pass in regards to Sanchez. It is well known in NY that Rex is the guy that wanted to trade up to get him.
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Originally Posted by Super_Kazuya
Jerry is nuttier than a bowl of Grape Nuts.
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01-29-2013
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#33
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jul 2011 |
Location: | Albany NY |
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Originally Posted by DenCWBY
I don't mean to start any issues in the room but I guess this is the preception from the outside or at least from Coaches Hotseat.com. No surprises considering the moves that have been made. Hope JG can shut them up.
The top seven on the list, in order:
1. Jason Garrett, Dallas
2. Rex Ryan, NY Jets
3. Jim Schwartz, Detroit
4. Ron Rivera, Carolina
5. Dennis Allen, Oakland
6. Mike Munchak, Tennessee,
7. Joe Philbin, Miami
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I see somewhat of a common theme with these teams:
Jets: people are saying Woody Johnson is too involved now. And also that this team is like a carnival.
Lions: For the longest time, poorly run team and very undisciplined.
Panthers..I dont know much about.
Raiders...We all know the dysfunction.
Titans: a nut job owner
Dolphins: An owner more and more involved, always looking to make a splash.
Cowboys: Jerry Jones.
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Originally Posted by Super_Kazuya
Jerry is nuttier than a bowl of Grape Nuts.
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01-30-2013
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#34
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The Instant Classic
Years Donated 2005, 2009, 2012, 2013
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Originally Posted by icyhot
It is funny how Karma works I believe he sabotaged Wade Phillips to get him fired. Now he is looking over his shoulder with the recent coach hires.
Posted from Cowboyszone.com App for Android
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If you believe in conspiracy theories, I don't see how believing in karma is any more of a stretch.
Winning is the business in the NFL. 8-8, if you're lucky, buys you another season. It doesn't buy job security. That's nothing new and Jason Garrett is not going to be any exception.
All that said, he's got the team heading in the right direction, and I think he's got the organization fairly solidly behind him. If that's the case, the results will eventually show up on the field.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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01-30-2013
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#35
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Chicks dig crutches
Joined: | Nov 2004 |
Location: | Texas |
Posts: | 5,128 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Idgit
If you believe in conspiracy theories, I don't see how believing in karma is any more of a stretch.
Winning is the business in the NFL. 8-8, if you're lucky, buys you another season. It doesn't buy job security. That's nothing new and Jason Garrett is not going to be any exception.
All that said, he's got the team heading in the right direction, and I think he's got the organization fairly solidly behind him. If that's the case, the results will eventually show up on the field.
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Spot on Idgit as usual. Patience everyone.
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01-30-2013
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#36
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Years Donated 2006, 2007, 2009
Joined: | Jan 2005 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ninja
My guess is that 5 of the 7 will be fired by the end of the 2013 season. Only Philbin and Allen survive.
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So you are saying that Garrett gets fired. For that to be true, then the next season will be a disappointment. Ergo, you are saying we will lose next year.
I think your agenda is showing.
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01-30-2013
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#37
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Joined: | Apr 2005 |
Posts: | 11,475 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Idgit
If you believe in conspiracy theories, I don't see how believing in karma is any more of a stretch.
Winning is the business in the NFL. 8-8, if you're lucky, buys you another season. It doesn't buy job security. That's nothing new and Jason Garrett is not going to be any exception.
All that said, he's got the team heading in the right direction, and I think he's got the organization fairly solidly behind him. If that's the case, the results will eventually show up on the field.
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I think that is the whole point being made. Garrett has been the OC for 6 seasons and the Head Coach for 2.5 seasons and we are a .500 ball club.
For whatever reason, the results have not shown up on the field, ergo the team may not be heading in the right direction and thus Garrett is on the hot seat this coming season.
Under Jerry's ownership, no head coach has had 3 straight seasons of no playoffs and was retained for a 4th year. So why should Garrett be treated any different? If he doesnt make the playoffs this coming season I see no way for Jerry to keep him.
As the official head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, Jason Garrett is 16-16............"Its a Process of stacking good days"
2013 Prediction: "NO PLAYOFFS"
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01-30-2013
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#38
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Senior Member
Joined: | Dec 2005 |
Posts: | 903 |
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Originally Posted by DenCWBY
I agree in that it's going to take a playoff win for JG to keep his seat as HC next year. Anything less and I think he's gone.
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I think if they win 10-11 games and are one and done, JG will be back the next year.
If they squeeze in with 8-9 wins, it will take a victory.
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01-30-2013
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#39
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The Instant Classic
Years Donated 2005, 2009, 2012, 2013
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Originally Posted by Beast_from_East
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I think that is the whole point being made. Garrett has been the OC for 6 seasons and the Head Coach for 2.5 seasons and we are a .500 ball club.
For whatever reason, the results have not shown up on the field, ergo the team may not be heading in the right direction and thus Garrett is on the hot seat this coming season.
Under Jerry's ownership, no head coach has had 3 straight seasons of no playoffs and was retained for a 4th year. So why should Garrett be treated any different? If he doesnt make the playoffs this coming season I see no way for Jerry to keep him.
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You can only make that argument by spreading JGs tenure out over his OC years, which is a bad argument.
Otherwise, we saw immediate improvement from the team when he took over. And then a rapid reshuffling of the secondary and the OL after we collapsed defensively late last season, and then a spate of significant injuries that derailed the conference title bid again this season.
Garrett definitely is on the hot seat, regardless. But that's as it should be.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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01-30-2013
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#40
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Corpus Christi |
Posts: | 2,630 |
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i agree that Garrett is on the hot seat, but i would put Rex Ryan as #1 on that list.
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01-30-2013
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#41
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Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Nederland, Texas |
Posts: | 1,432 |
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Garrett is and should be on the hot seat. He hasn't gotten the job done. This should be painfully obvious to anyone who understands the game.
"Maybe next year!!" We have been saying this phrase WAYYYYY too long!!!!!!!!!!
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01-31-2013
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#42
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Joined: | Feb 2005 |
Posts: | 4,713 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cml750
Garrett is and should be on the hot seat. He hasn't gotten the job done. This should be painfully obvious to anyone who understands the game.
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okay so explain the injuries on defense? and who again had say on the Oline and that is was good?
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01-31-2013
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#43
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Benched
Joined: | Feb 2010 |
Location: | Gimme's backyard |
Posts: | 4,606 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Idgit
You can only make that argument by spreading JGs tenure out over his OC years, which is a bad argument.
Otherwise, we saw immediate improvement from the team when he took over. And then a rapid reshuffling of the secondary and the OL after we collapsed defensively late last season, and then a spate of significant injuries that derailed the conference title bid again this season.
Garrett definitely is on the hot seat, regardless. But that's as it should be.
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The only improvement I've seen under Garrett is the team fights harder. That's it.
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01-31-2013
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#44
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Joined: | Mar 2012 |
Posts: | 1,023 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rynie
The only improvement I've seen under Garrett is the team fights harder. That's it.
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I agree. That's about it.
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01-31-2013
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#45
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Senior Member
Joined: | Aug 2004 |
Location: | SoCal |
Posts: | 127 |
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Haven't heard this...
Really just soeculating: Nick Saban.
"Is that the 6 million dollar mans boss?"
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