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Old 02-02-2013   #1
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Was going to do something more detailed but I never have the time. So, with that being said, my first mock of 2013 w/ some free agent additions.

Free Agents
Matt Shaughnessy 26 DE - Has great pass rushing skills and plays the run well. Here is an article as to his effect on oakland's Dline. Should compete for starting job at SDE and provide depth on both sides. Has some injury issues, but high ceiling. He's Young http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...klands-defense Combine http://nflcombineresults.com/playerp...ghnessy&i=8351

Brandon Moore 33 OG - Ol' reliable who knows the system and can still play his position well. A must add vet and instant upgrade. 1-2 year deal shouldn't be expensive.

Ted Ginn Jr. 27 WR - With Harris taking on a more prominent role in the offense, as he should, Dallas should look to signing Ted Ginn as their return man but also as the deep threat they've craved for so-so long. I think Ginn can thrive in this offense and should come with a low-price tag and he's still young! Deep threat. CHECK. Depth. CHECK. Return man. CHECK.

Chris Ivory 24 RB- Another young, experienced back, with a 5.1ypc average. My favorite RB on the Saints may not be tendered by his team with Thomas, Ingram, and Sproles all on the team. Should come with a low price tag. We get depth and someone who could step in if Murray steps out.

Dallas should bring in a vet to compete with Parnell for the right tackle position, but the addition of Moore should help the play at right tackle for whoever is starting this year.

Draft

Trade back in the first to add a 3rd. I'd say how but it's been done so much I figure there are so many mocks with them, I won't go over the details.

RD1 - Kawaan Short DT, a needed position and should start for us day one.
*alternate, Larry Warford (doesn't really fit sheme)

RD2 - Phillip Thomas FS, My pet safety this draft. Possesses tremendous ballhawk skills and should be a playmaker in kiffin's D.
*alternate, Sylvester Williams (Is it a Garrett RKG??? I like him)

RD3A - Khaled Holmes OC, another position of need and provides quality depth.
*alternate, Jonathan Cyprien (everybody's fav, just not mine )

RD3B - David Quessenberry OT/OG, I'd take him too doesn't matter to me. plays in and out and should be good in a ZBS. oh yeah, and depth.
*alternate, Brian Winters OT/OG, Depth guy, should be good for the ZBS

RD4 - Sio Moore OLB, Underrated linebacker who should fit well in kiffin's defense and provides quality depth and possible SAM.

RD5 - Robbie Rouse RB, My favorite back coming out. Provides quality depth in the backfield. Lil guy, but plays at a high level. Good hands, great vision. Played well in the Senior bowl.

RD6 - Terry Hawthorne CB, More depth and plays the zone well.
*alternate Another CB, honey badger, Hyde, or draft a Blocking TE here.

1 Kawaan Short DT
2 Phillip Thomas FS
3 Khaled Holmes OC
3 David Quessenberry OG/T
4 Sio Moore OLB
5 Robbie Rouse RB
6 Terry Hawthorne CB
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Great mock! Especially like the Ivory pickup and the Sio Moore pick. I'm more of a D.J. Swearinger and Jonathan Cyprien fan, but to each their own. I would be a happy Cowboys fan if this went down. I look forward to your next one.
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Great mock! Especially like the Ivory pickup and the Sio Moore pick. I'm more of a D.J. Swearinger and Jonathan Cyprien fan, but to each their own. I would be a happy Cowboys fan if this went down. I look forward to your next one.
Thank your sir. I realized with positions like FS and RB, it really becomes a matter a preference and taste(if you will) when choosing who you'd draft and where you draft them.
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That's actually a great mock the only thing I would change is the safety. I'm a big Cyprien fan. Holmes and the Qberry kid would be solid additions.

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Nice job man. Seriously. My thoughts are in bold.


Free Agents
Matt Shaughnessy 26 DE - Nice pickup who shouldn't be too expensive. Don't know if the Raiders will let him get away but he would be the kind of reasonable pickup that I've talked about for SDE if we let Spencer walk. Like this move.

Brandon Moore 33 OG - Short term fix for the interior OL and while I would like a blue chip rookie to plug in, you can't do it all in one season and Moore would be very good for a year or two. Price would be the only question. If he was reasonable enough, I'd be very happy with him.

Ted Ginn Jr. 27 WR - I'm not a Ginn fan and I think we could get by at WR and in the kicking game with what we already have. I'm not totally against getting a low priced returner, but we have so many needs that I think this position might get passed over until 2014. If we do get a returner in free agency, I hope it isn't Ginn. I've been wrong about players before though, so if we got Ginn, I would keep an open mind and hope for the best.

Chris Ivory 24 RB- Really like this guy and it would be a terrific move if we could get him to back up Murray. Young, with good run skills... if he didn't cost too much, I'd be thrilled.

Dallas should bring in a vet to compete with Parnell for the right tackle position, but the addition of Moore should help the play at right tackle for whoever is starting this year.

Draft

Trade back in the first to add a 3rd. I'd say how but it's been done so much I figure there are so many mocks with them, I won't go over the details.

RD1 - Kawaan Short DT - DT is the position I think we end up drafting in round 1 because talented DT's are expensive in free agency and very hard to come by. If a team gets a good one, they almost never let him get away until they are too old to be elite anymore. Sometimes it happens but not very often. DT is a position that NFL teams value and don't mind spending a first round pick on... and Dallas is definitely among those that think that way. Also, the other two big needs Dallas has (guard and safety) aren't among the positions that they like to use prime picks on, so I see DT as a much more likely first round target. Not to mention that this draft is so full of good DT's that there will for sure be a highly ranked one sitting there at 18 or even into the mid to late 20's.

I really do like Short a lot, although I think Richardson and Floyd are better. If one of those guys are there at 18, I probably would take one of them instead of trading back, taking Short and getting the extra pick. Still, if we got Short and a 3rd I would be very, very happy. Short is so explosive and would be great in a rotation with Hatcher, Ratliff and Crawford. He could play either the 3 tech or the 1 tech spot and would his explosiveness would make a big difference on the line right away.

RD2 - Phillip Thomas FS - I'm not as high on him as some are but I do think he is a pretty solid player. IMO the 2nd is a bit high for him and would like him much better in the 3rd. Perhaps he ends up a second round guy by the time the combine and pro days have come and gone, but right now I see him as a 3rd rounder. He is the kind of rangy, ball hawk I think we need, but I'm wanting a physical presence back there and I don't see him as that kind of guy. I want good coverage number 1... but there are guys that can cover and is physical and aggressive.

RD3A - Khaled Holmes OC - Holmes is a solid player and I would be happy with him in the 3rd. I just think the team is going to go with Costa, Bernadeau, and Cook, so I don't think we end up drafting one. IMO, the center position is in better shape than guard is by a good bit and if an interior OL is drafted, it will be a guard.

I happen to love the alternate pick you have in Cyprien. He is the kind of physical, tough, aggressive safety that I was talking about earlier. He is an intimidator who can cover. He's fluid and fast with great change of direction and he seems to have a good understanding of coverage. And he will hit you. He's rangy and covers a lot of ground but he looks like a small LB and will pound you.

To be honest, Cyprien is a bit of a pet cat of mine, so take that for what it's worth.

RD3B - David Quessenberry OT/OG - I like Winters better but Quessenberry is a good player too.

RD4 - Sio Moore OLB - Very nice pick. I really like Moore and I think he'd walk in as a day 1 starter at SLB. He can do everything we'd ask from a SLB and more. Very athletic and has all the intangibles you could ask for. Exactly the kind of SLB option I've been talking about. Getting a day 1 starter in the 4th round would be great.

I do like Zaviar Gooden and Khaseem Green better (they are WLB's though), but Moore would be a very good pick. Besides, I don't see any way Green gets anywhere close to the 4th round. He will probably go in the second... and Gooden should go in the 3rd. All 3 are Kiffin types of LB's and would be a great addition.


RD5 - Robbie Rouse RB - I love Rouse too. I don't think he will be there in the 5th, but if he is I'd do cartwheels if he added him to the team. Murray, Ivory and Rouse would be a very good RB group. No longer would I hold my breath every time Murray gets hit. Very nice pick there.

RD6 - Terry Hawthorne CB - Solid pick and probably a pretty good guess position wise. I think somewhere late in the draft Dallas will take a flyer on a corner and hope he can come in and play well enough to challenge for the 4th CB spot. I still would like to try Honey Badger late in the draft though.


1 Kawaan Short DT
2 Phillip Thomas FS
3 Khaled Holmes OC
3 David Quessenberry OG/T
4 Sio Moore OLB
5 Robbie Rouse RB
6 Terry Hawthorne CB

I wouldn't mind that draft and free agency at all. I'd be quite happy with it actually.

I'd still rather see:

1. Sherrif Floyd DT
2.
Matt Elam S
3. Zaviar Gooden OLB
4. Brian Winters OG

5. Robbie Rouse RB
6. Tyrann Mathieu DB
- I know, I know... too small, too stoned, too WKG... for a 6th, I will take a shot on one of the best football players I've seen in a long, long time.

That Draft along with the free agency you had (minus Ginn), would go a long way towards getting all we need to be a force as a 43 defense and getting the OL working as an effective unit.


Let the best man win at C and Moore would give us a couple of good years at G. I think Free will be much better at RT this year after a year working in Callahan's system, too. If we have to, we can still platoon Free with Parnell.


OL: Smith - Livings - Bernadeau - Moore - Free

On defense:


DL: Shaughnessy - Hatcher/Ratliff - Floyd/Crawford - Ware



LB: Gooden - Lee - Carter
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Good work!

Matt Shaughnessy: Good size (6-5, 285) to play SDE in Kiffin's defense.

Brandon Moore: Perfect fit, IMO. Puts a veteran next to Parnell that is an expert in Callahan's system.

Ted Ginn Jr.: I have not really followed this player in the NFL. What has been his primary issue at WR?

Chris Ivory: Could be a rare opportunity to get a player that would normally be restricted but might not due to the talent ahead of him; although, the Saints might give him a tender offer and try to trade him.


1 Kawaan Short DT: Work-ethic is the primary concern with this player.

2 Phillip Thomas FS: Good player. It's really difficult to rank the Safeties in this draft.

3 Khaled Holmes OC: Excellent pick! This player is very underrated, IMO. Also, this position is almost impossible to improve in Free Agency.

3 David Quessenberry OG/T: Undersized but plays with good technique and strength for this size. I like the concept of a guy that could play both OG/OT. His arm length (33-7/8") should be good enough to get him looks at OT.

4 Sio Moore OLB: Excellent pick. Very good player, IMO.

5 Robbie Rouse RB: It would be crazy not to get a RB somewhere in this draft.

6 Terry Hawthorne CB: He appears to have the physical ability to play the position which is what you're looking for in the 6th round.

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Nice job man. Seriously. My thoughts are in bold.


Free Agents
Matt Shaughnessy 26 DE - Nice pickup who shouldn't be too expensive. Don't know if the Raiders will let him get away but he would be the kind of reasonable pickup that I've talked about for SDE if we let Spencer walk. Like this move.

Brandon Moore 33 OG - Short term fix for the interior OL and while I would like a blue chip rookie to plug in, you can't do it all in one season and Moore would be very good for a year or two. Price would be the only question. If he was reasonable enough, I'd be very happy with him.

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Thanks for the in-depth analysis. I really appreciate the feedback.

I can understand Ted Ginn being a problem for some. My main reason for his addition was the cheap price tag and I think his style of play would go perfect in this offense. Couple that with memories of Terry Glenn beating secondaries senseless, i just miss the deep threat we once had. Ginn can be productive, as what was evident in Miami. He put up okay numbers, just not first round draft pick numbers, and did so with a Miami QB. Then goes to SF where is skills really are not utilized well, but he is till effective in the return game. So my view was we get the deep threat we need, and hope a little coaching furthers his game. With the long routes mid to long range, somebody who is fast that could get deep only benefits the offense. When choosing a WR to add through FA the deep threat was a must characteristic in choosing. The other WR I consider adding was Donnie Avery. Another WR who is fast and could get open but is probably a little more versatile in his routes. I just thought he would be a little more expensive because he had gotten starter reps this year due to injuries. At least with Ginn we can get a reurn specialist to go along with his speed at a cheap price tag. This was my reasoning for choosing Ginn.

Phillip Thomas, to be honest I am extremely bias when it comes to Thomas. I've watched Thomas play this season and remember his game a couple years ago and the guy makes plays. Again, total bias pick.

I actually really like your draft too. Luckily this year I think Dallas SHOULD be able to put a dent in fixing the trenches through the draft and FA as the draft is deep in those areas. Will they? I have no idea.

I actually had Mathieu as my alternate for my 6th round. I think in the 6th that it is a great pick and should have strong consideration.
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Good work!

Matt Shaughnessy: Good size (6-5, 285) to play SDE in Kiffin's defense.

Brandon Moore: Perfect fit, IMO. Puts a veteran next to Parnell that is an expert in Callahan's system.

Ted Ginn Jr.: I have not really followed this player in the NFL. What has been his primary issue at WR?

Chris Ivory: Could be a rare opportunity to get a player that would normally be restricted but might not due to the talent ahead of him; although, the Saints might give him a tender offer and try to trade him.


1 Kawaan Short DT: Work-ethic is the primary concern with this player.

2 Phillip Thomas FS: Good player. It's really difficult to rank the Safeties in this draft.

3 Khaled Holmes OC: Excellent pick! This player is very underrated, IMO. Also, this position is almost impossible to improve in Free Agency.

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Thank you sir. Appreciate that feedback.

I think there is a list of about 5 safeties I'd be happy with any of them, Cyprien, Swearinger, Thomas, Rambo, Elam and others. I won't be upset with any of those guys.

As for Ginn, I think a lot of people won't like the addition but I think he fits a niche that we need.
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I don't have a ton of analysis, but I could live with this

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Love it! I'd be as happy as a puppy with two tails!
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Nice post. these are the kind of posts that keep me coming back to this site on my lunch break. for the past 2 or 3 years i've read these between this time of year to the draft, and I almost always have a really good idea of who we're most likely going to go after, who to read up on and get familiar with, and whether or not to be excited or disappointed on draft day.

Its always funny listening to the guys on the Fan or on ESPN radio regurgitate some crap they read on bleacher report for cowboys draft analysis.
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Strong work, but I'd rather stay at #18 and take Richardson or Floyd, if either is there. I'm not a big Ginn fan, and if I have two third-rounders, one of them will be earmarked for Stedman Bailey. Unfortunately, I think we'll stand pat at center.
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Nice job.

Not my first choice, but nobody else's would be either.

I could definitely live with this.
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