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Old 02-04-2013   #16
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Flacco made some great throws and did not cost his team the game. his O-Line played like a SB O-Line should. He earned the MVP, but it was by all accounts, a team victory. That defensive stand at the end was the deciding factor, but Flacco earned himself some money last night. No labels are necessary, other than winner.
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His stats in the last 2 playoffs, which consist of 6 games I think are 15 TDs and 1 pick. And he should have had a shot at a Super Bowl last season as well if not for butterfingers in the endzone and then Cundiff shanking a gimme FG.

He just completed his 5th season and already has a Super Bowl victory along with a Super Bowl MVP and 3 total AFC championship games appearances. Playoffs in every season he has been the starter.

He may not be elite but he is getting there. The best past 5 years for any QB and that includes all the big names like Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Ben R, Peyton and Eli.
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His stats in the last 2 playoffs, which consist of 6 games I think are 15 TDs and 1 pick. And he should have had a shot at a Super Bowl last season as well if not for butterfingers in the endzone and then Cundiff shanking a gimme FG.

He just completed his 5th season and already has a Super Bowl victory along with a Super Bowl MVP and 3 total AFC championship games appearances. Playoffs in every season he has been the starter.

He may not be elite but he is getting there. The best past 5 years for any QB and that includes all the big names like Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Ben R, Peyton and Eli.
After reading this post, pretty sure that your post does qualify him as elite. That is some pretty impressive things to say about a QB.

What is elite, if not these accomplishments?
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Flacco is not elite, are you kidding me?

The term elite goes to only a select few in this league.. Not 10 Quarterbacks

Elite =

Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
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Doesn't make you an "Elite" QB. Flacco played very well in the SB and in the playoffs, but I've heard it all over the radio today saying he is an Elite QB.

Anyone else annoyed by this?
Yes. I knew it would happen if they won, which is why I seriously considered rooting for the 49ers.

Flacco's not elite. He's not even average.
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Yes. I knew it would happen if they won, which is why I seriously considered rooting for the 49ers.

Flacco's not elite. He's not even average.
I may not consider him elite but he is more than avg. He has a 2 to 1 TD to int ratio. He is fairly accurate passing hitting 60% for his career and can make all the throws you need at this level. He is not a runner but does a good job of buying time.

I will say if this game was just about QB then Rodgers and Brady or Brees would win the SB every single year but they don't. It is the teams that win championships. Flacco is greatly helped by a solid OL, a good rushing attack and the addition of Bolden gives them that special WR who can make the tough catches and a defense who can make the big plays as well as a special teams unit that came up big.

Even with the so called elites to win they need big plays from other areas. Bree and NO won a SB he played great and while his defense gave up lots of yardage they also lead the league in take aways the year they won the SB.

Rodgers the same way the year GB won it all their defense lead by Woodson and Mathews was making big game changing plays. It is not just QB who win games

I just don't get why so many buy into the whole QB winning championshop BS when it is and always has been about the best teams winning
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Earns and wins MVP.

He is elite.



If not for catch-non-catch against pats last year... This Super Bowl is a back to backer.
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I may not consider him elite but he is more than avg. He has a 2 to 1 TD to int ratio. He is fairly accurate passing hitting 60% for his career and can make all the throws you need at this level. He is not a runner but does a good job of buying time.

I will say if this game was just about QB then Rodgers and Brady or Brees would win the SB every single year but they don't. It is the teams that win championships. Flacco is greatly helped by a solid OL, a good rushing attack and the addition of Bolden gives them that special WR who can make the tough catches and a defense who can make the big plays as well as a special teams unit that came up big.

Even with the so called elites to win they need big plays from other areas. Bree and NO won a SB he played great and while his defense gave up lots of yardage they also lead the league in take aways the year they won the SB.

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In this day and age, 2-to-1 and 60% actually isn't that impressive. I agree with the rest of your post, though.
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In this day and age, 2-to-1 and 60% actually isn't that impressive. I agree with the rest of your post, though.
As I said I don't consider him elite but I would at least say he is avg to above avg
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Doesn't make you an "Elite" QB. Flacco played very well in the SB and in the playoffs, but I've heard it all over the radio today saying he is an Elite QB.

Anyone else annoyed by this?
Flacco threw 10+ TDs in this year's postseason (3 of which in the Superbowl and also had ZERO interceptions throughout the playoff run). He's won many post season games and now has a Title to show for it. Right now, he's more clutch AND elite than Romo (I understand that might be hard for you to swallow.)
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