RG3 wins Rookie of the year - Page 7 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

CitySlicker202 · 02-04-2013

LoL @ this board finding ways to discredit RG3's Rookie of Year season. He was a major part in helping save the Redskins season going from 3-6 to winning SEVEN consecutive games to finish 10-6 with NFC East Title.

The 7-Game win streak featured the defeat of last year's champion Giants and this year's champion Ravens. We also swept Dallas who were contending for a playoff and division title (that's FOUR quality wins in a 7 week stretch).

Bottom line is, RG3 was the ONLY rookie QB to qualify for the post season WITH a Division Title (I'd like to see any of you try to undercut that accomplishment). I also see some of you anticipating/hoping for a short career from RG3......I bet you would wish that for the sake of your own franchise. Stay class Cowboy fans. Stay classy!

FLcowboy · 02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by Woods

I would have voted for Luck . . . . but it will be interesting to see how Luck's and RGIII's respective careers progress.

Don't forget Wilson in Seattle. This guy is going to as good as Luck, and better than RGIII, in my opinion.

5Stars · 02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by FLcowboy

Don't forget Wilson in Seattle. This guy is going to as good as Luck, and better than RGIII, in my opinion.

I have not watched Luck much, but, yeah, I think Wilson is going to have a better career than RG 2-1/2. And....he did not cost 3 first round draft picks!

Woods · 02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by CitySlicker202

LoL @ this board finding ways to discredit RG3's Rookie of Year season. He was a major part in helping save the Redskins season going from 3-6 to winning SEVEN consecutive games to finish 10-6 with NFC East Title.

The 7-Game win streak featured the defeat of last year's champion Giants and this year's champion Ravens. We also swept Dallas who were contending for a playoff and division title (that's FOUR quality wins in a 7 week stretch).

Bottom line is, RG3 was the ONLY rookie QB to qualify for the post season WITH a Division Title (I'd like to see any of you try to undercut that accomplishment). I also see some of you anticipating/hoping for a short career from RG3......I bet you would wish that for the sake of your own franchise. Stay class Cowboy fans. Stay classy!

I don't actually wish for him to have a short career. I think he's a good guy.

But his body build reminds me of Vick in many ways. He's thin and lean. Maybe even leaner than Vick in the legs. I just think his style of play isn't going to work out long-term, especially given his knee injuries.

But that's just my opinion.

AbeBeta · 02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by Woods

I don't actually wish for him to have a short career. I think he's a good guy.

But his body build reminds me of Vick in many ways. He's thin and lean. Maybe even leaner than Vick in the legs. I just think his style of play isn't going to work out long-term, especially given his knee injuries.

But that's just my opinion.

The one major advantage he has on Vick is throwing accuracy. That's huge. Both guys have major cannon arms, but RGIII with a 65% completion rate has already topped Vick's best year (62%). He also topped all but one of Vick's passing yard seasons. He looks like he's got much more upside as a passer.

5Stars · 02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by AbeBeta

The one major advantage he has on Vick is throwing accuracy. That's huge. Both guys have major cannon arms, but RGIII with a 65% completion rate has already topped Vick's best year (62%). He also topped all but one of Vick's passing yard seasons. He looks like he's got much more upside as a passer.

RG 2-1/2 does not own any dogs, does he?

DWAREZ · 02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by CitySlicker202

LoL @ this board finding ways to discredit RG3's Rookie of Year season. He was a major part in helping save the Redskins season going from 3-6 to winning SEVEN consecutive games to finish 10-6 with NFC East Title.

The 7-Game win streak featured the defeat of last year's champion Giants and this year's champion Ravens. We also swept Dallas who were contending for a playoff and division title (that's FOUR quality wins in a 7 week stretch).

Bottom line is, RG3 was the ONLY rookie QB to qualify for the post season WITH a Division Title (I'd like to see any of you try to undercut that accomplishment). I also see some of you anticipating/hoping for a short career from RG3......I bet you would wish that for the sake of your own franchise. Stay class Cowboy fans. Stay classy!

This post is an example of the quintessential unbiased Redskin fan, a truly critical and honest reflection of the accomplishments of RG3 and the Redskins Football team!..........

5Stars · 02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by DWAREZ

This post is an example of the quintessential unbiased Redskin fan, a truly critical and honest reflection of the accomplishments of RG3 and the Redskins Football team!..........

That's good for the Redskins. But, now, they are going to have to find some scrubs to help RG2-1/2 out. They don't have 3 draft rounders for awhile.

If he wins the SB in a year or two...maybe he was worth it. He's good, but he's not 3 firsts for.

SkinsandTerps · 02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by 5Stars

That's good for the Redskins. But, now, they are going to have to find some scrubs to help RG2-1/2 out. They don't have 3 draft rounders for awhile.

If he wins the SB in a year or two...maybe he was worth it. He's good, but he's not 3 firsts for.

2 firsts and a second. A first for a first is not even relevant.

You of all people should understand this by now.

And there's plenty of room to make things happen.

Risen Star · 02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps

2 firsts and a second. A first for a first is not even relevant.

You of all people should understand this by now.

And there's plenty of room to make things happen.

So does this mean when you use your original 1st round pick on a player you didn't invest a 1st round pick on him?

He cost you three 1sts and a 2nd. You of all people should understand that.

SkinsandTerps · 02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by Risen Star

So does this mean when you use your original 1st round pick on a player you didn't invest a 1st round pick on him?

He cost you three 1sts and a 2nd. You of all people should understand that.

A trade of firsts does not equal giving up a first. What pick was Griffin ?
You don't get that they gave up a first ? Hmm...

But it is nice to see you defending him.

2 firsts and a second.

bsheeern · 02-05-2013

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Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps

A trade of firsts does not equal giving up a first. What pick was Griffin ?
You don't get that they gave up a first ? Hmm...

But it is nice to see you defending him.

2 firsts and a second.

Ok so they used a first rounder to draft him, gave up 1 current and two future first round picks and a second round pick as well. So all in all they traded 4 picks to move up what, 6 spots in a draft?

SkinsHokieFan · 02-05-2013

The point was 5 stars claimed the Redskins DON'T have 3 first round picks for a while

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Originally Posted by 5 Stars

That's good for the Redskins. But, now, they are going to have to find some scrubs to help RG2-1/2 out. They don't have 3 draft rounders for awhile.

This is incorrect. The Redskins don't have a first this year (number 24 pick overall) and won't have a first in the 2014 draft.

Luckily the Redskins *do* have 7 picks in this draft and as of now 6 picks in the 2014 draft.

If Shanahan can find another Alfred Morris type player late (whose play is such a bonus since he was a 6th rounder) the Redskins will be fine.

In fact the key contributors in the 2 wins over the Cowboys this year were RG3 (great in both games, in particular on T-Giving) Aldrick Robinson (6th round pick) Alfred Morris (6th round pick), Garcon (free agent pickup) Niles Paul (5th round pick) Rob Jackson (7th round pick). Its clear right now the Redskins as a complete team and organization are in far better shape then the Cowboys and won't have to rely on the one man team the Cowboys have had to the last few years

The big holes are at RT/LG, CB and S. Although I expect the team to load up a bit more on the offense and develop a more bend but don't break D in the redzone that also is able to force turnovers

Now here is a fun question: Ask a St. Louis Rams fan what they would rather have right now

Sam Bradford+ 2 additional 1st round picks

Vs

RG3 who already has more division titles and playoff appearances then Bradford

December90 · 02-05-2013

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Originally Posted by bsheeern

Ok so they used a first rounder to draft him, gave up 1 current and two future first round picks and a second round pick as well. So all in all they traded 4 picks to move up what, 6 spots in a draft?

Do you beleive that the Giants overpaid when they used 2 firsts, a third and a fifth for Manning?

CitySlicker202 · 02-05-2013

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Originally Posted by FLcowboy

Don't forget Wilson in Seattle. This guy is going to as good as Luck, and better than RGIII, in my opinion.

I'm not taking anything away from Wilson or Luck, they are both extremely good QBs with above average scrambling and throwing. However, Wilson has the luxury of playing behind one of the league's fastest and most dynamic defenses while Luck plays in a lack luster division outside of Houston (many of the Colts wins this season came against sub .500 teams .....just stating facts here).

RG3 on the other hand plays in the black and blue NFC East and won the division right off the bat on basically ONE LEG. You all think about that for a second; the worst thing for the Cowboys franchise is not the ineptitude of Jerry Jones. It is RG3 at or near 100%.

In hindsight, exchanging 1sts, and trading two additional 1sts and a 2nd for this QB was like stealing a R.O.Y. and future MVP.