Youth movement - Page 2 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Clove · 02-06-2013

More than anything, you just need talent. And you'll also need someone who knows how to call and manage a game. The difference between most NFL teams is slim.

Bad call, bad throw, bad drop, a bad coverage, missing an INT, all those things represent a team who's just not ready to compete.

The coaching and the QB play has to get better down the stretch. No way around it, young guys or old.

Wolfpack · 02-06-2013

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Originally Posted by Idgit

Actually, the penalty on the offense in the end zone is a safety, anyway. BAL just bought some more time by instructing the players to hold the rushers. Good coaching.

The refs should have thrown the flags, but I sure they knew the outcome was the same and didn't bother to disturb the flow of the game to ask SF If they wanted the safety, or the safety.

Thats really brilliant coaching as you noted, great job picking up on that! You have to know the GAME inside and out to win at the top level.

**Idgit** · 02-06-2013

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Thats really brilliant coaching as you noted, great job picking up on that! You have to know the GAME inside and out to win at the top level.

Yeah. Sometimes it helps when your HC is a former ST coordinator, huh? It was a smart call, all around.

rocyaice · 02-06-2013

I say this everytime someone brings up "rebuilding" or "youth movement". Its tough for this team to do when the core of their players are all mid 20's. Yes, Romo, Ware, Witten and Ratliff are 30+ but this teams core and who will be the reason this team has ANY success next year will be because of the Tyron's, the Sean Lee's, the Bruce Carter's, the Demarco's, the Brandon Carr's, the Morris Claiborne's and the Dez Bryant's. All guys in their mid 20's or early 20's.

Tezz · 02-06-2013

The 49ers have I think literally the oldest D-line in the league. Its about results like how the Seahawks re-upped Chris Clemons last off-season even though he is the same age as Jay Ratliff.

Rack Bauer · 02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by LatinMind

I think there will be more younger players replacing older on this team in the next two yrs. If you listen to Jerry he is fascinated with how the Niner and Seahawks have been built. These teams are young and conditioned very very good.

Especially San Fran. And it showed in the superbowl. After that blackout Niners young legs and body were the highlight. Ravens with older vets were tight while the Niners handled it easily. And it showed.

This yr i can see players like:
Ratliff
Sensabaugh
Spears
Connor
Livings

all gone for younger, cheaper talent. And then in 2014 Austin, Hatcher, maybe a suprise Elite cut.

Its turned into a fast pace NFL. Where younger and better conditioned teams are going to win. Dallas has been going that route but the problem has been the core of their team(elite) has some age on them.

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If Ratliff, Spears, and Connor are cut it'll likely be due to salary issues, not age.

I don't see Sensy being cut.

Livings is the best guard on the team, he won't be cut.

Rack Bauer · 02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by LatinMind

Ref'n was spotty that whole game IMO. They missed alot of calls on both ends. Esp on that safety BAL took. Clear holding on that play but the ref eyes were stuck on the punter. Ballgame.

NFL clearly didnt have their A game reffing that game.

Throwing a flag on that safety would have has absolutey ZERO EFFECT on the play.

THey would have called holding, resulting in a Safety (guess what, they took the safety on purpose) and they would have done the free kick (just like they did anyway, cuz they took the safety on PURPOSE) and NO TIME would have been put back on the clock.

Not calling holding on that play has absolutely no effect on the outcome of the play or the outcome of the game. Period.

lurkercowboy · 02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Rack Bauer

Throwing a flag on that safety would have has absolutey ZERO EFFECT on the play.

THey would have called holding, resulting in a Safety (guess what, they took the safety on purpose) and they would have done the free kick (just like they did anyway, cuz they took the safety on PURPOSE) and NO TIME would have been put back on the clock.

Not calling holding on that play has absolutely no effect on the outcome of the play or the outcome of the game. Period.

Heck it would probably be a good thing to tell your team to hold on that play - just tackle everyone on the defense - don't even put in the punter, put in a WR or someone elusive to take the snap and let them run out all of the time on the clock. The game would be over because it would be a penalty on the offense. No untimed down.

fanfromvirginia · 02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by xwalker

The average age of the current expanded roster is 25.29 years.

32 Romo, Tony
31 Ratliff, Jay
30 Hatcher, Jason
30 Livings, Nate
30 Orton, Kyle
30 Ware, DeMarcus
30 Witten, Jason
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29 Armstrong, Anthony
29 Cook, Ryan
29 Free, Doug
29 Sensabaugh, Gerald
29 Spears, Marcus
29 Vickers, Lawrence
28 Austin, Miles
27 Bernadeau, Mackenzy
27 Connor, Dan
26 Carr, Brandon
26 Lee, Sean
26 Parnell, Jermey
26 Underwood, Brandon
25 Agnew, Vince
25 Albright, Alex
25 Arkin, David
25 Bailey, Dan
25 Brent, Josh
25 Cochart, Colin
25 Harris, Dwayne
25 Lissemore, Sean
25 Satele, Brashton
25 Scandrick, Orlando
25 Simmons, Aderious
25 Stephens, Nick
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Wow. This team is really quite young. We've got a handful of players in their early thirties, another several players who are 29, at least four of whom could find themselves off the team, and then a whole lot of young guys.

From the perspective of age, we're in great shape.