An Objective Mediot Who Actually Gets It

[tantrix1969]

Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

You are correct that this 8-8 team has enough negatives to discuss w/o making any up.

However, when you say the media doesnt make any negative topics up, well, that is just a tad naive IMO.

believing every positive article is gospel and not a puff piece to divert the fans from Jerry's ramblings is just as naive

[WPBCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by tantrix1969

believing every positive article is gospel and not a puff piece to divert the fans from Jerry's ramblings is just as naive

Very true.

But listening to what is said, seeing what can be seen, and evaluating for oneself is not naive. Recognizing mediot spin and fabrication is not naive.

Drinking the mediot negative Kool-Aid is naive.

[CowboyGil]

Never ceases to amaze me how it almost makes the 'realists' giddy to shoot down something that has even the TINIEST little vibe of positivity.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Kiffin's defense only gave up 730 yards to Oregon last year.

Thanks for the insight. I don't think anyone know that USC struggled against Oregon.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

Very true.

But listening to what is said, seeing what can be seen, and evaluating for oneself is not naive. Recognizing mediot spin and fabrication is not naive.

Drinking the mediot negative Kool-Aid is naive.

It is much easier to believe the negative articles considering the failure to produce a playoff winner for the last several years. There some serious reasons to doubt the current leadership of the organization and the direction that they are headed. In other words, they are easy targets for the media.

[Doomsay]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

I recall Kiffin had a good year I think his first at USC. More likely that the talent just did not line up right.

Or it could be that like some coaches he just was not good at the College Level.

Just like a number of college coaches never do well in the pros

Yeah, hopefully it was just not a good match for whatever reason.

[WPBCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by jnday

It is much easier to believe the negative articles considering the failure to produce a playoff winner for the last several years. There some serious reasons to doubt the current leadership of the organization and the direction that they are headed. In other words, they are easy targets for the media.

While very true it still doesnt make all the mediot speculation true.

I can look at the team and be pissed that they have had a lousy 16 years. I can look at Jerry and Jason, and the back to back 8-8 records and find plenty to criticize them about w/o spin and fabrication.

So for me it doesnt make it any easier to believe BS, it just makes it easier to look at the mediots as mediots when they spin and fabricate to sensationalize. And when I drink their Kool-Aid it puts me in their category.

Its all about accuracy in the details. Its about validity. And for the most part, a large majority of the mediots have sacrificed their legitimacy because they would rather create buzz than be accurate.

[T-RO]

Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

Thanks for the insight. I don't think anyone know that USC struggled against Oregon.

USC was the preseason #1 team in the entire country! They were loaded as usual. Yet the Kiffin father-son combo were repeatedly demolished.

When required to work resourcefully with youngsters...facing increasingly sophisticated college offenses...Monte at age 72...had no answers.

So you propose that thoughtful fans are supposed to get hyped and see this Kiffin nonsense as some big improvement...as some Cowboy renaissance? What a complete joke. The only changes I see are that Jerry is just older. More addled. Worse.

But hey...go right ahead and buy tickets for more carnival rides. It's your money.

[WPBCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by T-RO

USC was the preseason #1 team in the entire country! They were loaded as usual. Yet the Kiffin father-son combo were repeatedly demolished.

When required to work resourcefully with youngsters...facing increasingly sophisticated college offenses...Monte at age 72...had no answers.

So you propose that thoughtful fans are supposed to get hyped and see this Kiffin nonsense as some big improvement...as some Cowboy renaissance? What a complete joke. The only changes I see are that Jerry is just older. More addled. Worse.

But hey...go right ahead and buy tickets for more carnival rides. It's your money.

This is sheer brilliance. Amazing insight.

Its generally been viewed as common knowledge that Pete Carroll left at the right time because the talent was lacking and he knew it. The program was on the slide.

Thanks for clearing things up.

[newlander]

Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

Thanks for the insight. I don't think anyone know that USC struggled against Oregon.

we all know it happened and we also know that USC typically has a LOT of talent. Is it possible they were young and thin and overmatched due to the probation from the NCAA? I will say this: I watched them a few times and they looked exactly liek that: young pups getting beat up on by older, more experienced offenses: especially at Oregon.


Pete Carroll just came out yesterday and said Monte was too sophisticated and complex for the college kids...basically said he's a genius (which he would, as Monte was his mentor) and they couldn't grasp his schemes. I'd really like to believe that but....just don't know. Time will tell obviously.

[newlander]

Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

This is sheer brilliance. Amazing insight.

Its generally been viewed as common knowledge that Pete Carroll left at the right time because the talent was lacking and he knew it. The program was on the slide.

Thanks for clearing things up.

...it didn't 'slide' until after he left. Make no mistake, he got outta dodge before the law showed up: pretty gutless on Carroll's part.
The question is did it slide due to scholarship reductions by the NCAA or because the Kiffins boys were inept? Again, time will tell.