Christopher Nolan to produce ‘Justice League’, Christian Bale to return as Batman?

[hipfake08]

Originally Posted by kristie

WOO HOO!!!!

Let's not lose it over cartoon characters.

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by hipfake08

Let's not lose it over cartoon characters.

Different strokes for different folks.

[CowboyGil]

Originally Posted by Teren_Kanan

Way too young looking.

She's proven she's got the acting chops and can handle a physically demanding role. I don't see what's wrong with young looking. And if somebody like Nolan or JJ Abrams does it, why wouldn't she want to? Lucy Lawless would've been a good fit in her Xena days. Horrible actress though.

[CowboyGil]

Originally Posted by kmp77

Not really. She's no more outdated than Thor and that came across great in the movies. They just need to handle it the same as she's from a hidden place on earth and half god. Then she's allowed out for one mission and comes to the US. She'd be a good role model for girls that's sorely missing from the super hero movies now.

Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow. Hotter than a Dallas sidewalk in the middle of summer.

[Ntegrase96]

Not excited for this, because three possible things have to happen and I don't like any of the options.


1. The JL movie will undermine Nolan's vision of Batman. It doesn't matter when the JL movie takes place if Nolan's vision of Batman continues. Either the end of TDKR is pointless, or all of the other movies are undermined by the fact that a flying invincible alien in red underwear could have shown up at any time to solve any problem that Batman faced. Can you imagine how easily Bane would have been defeated by Superman?

2. Batman has to be rebooted to fit the overall tone. I thought that Spider-man was rebooted a bit early, and that was after an awful third installment in Spider-man 3. That franchise needed to be rebooted and it was still too early. After TKDR finished so strongly, I can't foresee a successful reboot within the next 10 years.

3. They just make a justice league movie without going through all the other individual movies, and that's really just a no win situation. You don't have enough time to build up each character so you'll get something like the League of Extraordinary Gentleman, or you fit everyone's story in just fine and you end up with a movie that overstays it's welcome... like Watchmen.

[DemonBlood]

Originally Posted by speedkilz88

I seriously doubt she would want to take that part on at this stage of her career.

Yeah, because her signing on to act in the sequel to X-Men:First Class and Hunger Games 2 shows shes way above that type of role...

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by Ntegrase96

Not excited for this, because three possible things have to happen and I don't like any of the options.


1. The JL movie will undermine Nolan's vision of Batman. It doesn't matter when the JL movie takes place if Nolan's vision of Batman continues. Either the end of TDKR is pointless, or all of the other movies are undermined by the fact that a flying invincible alien in red underwear could have shown up at any time to solve any problem that Batman faced. Can you imagine how easily Bane would have been defeated by Superman?

Why couldn't the big reveal in Man of Steel occur after the Dark Knight trilogy?

2. Batman has to be rebooted to fit the overall tone. I thought that Spider-man was rebooted a bit early, and that was after an awful third installment in Spider-man 3. That franchise needed to be rebooted and it was still too early. After TKDR finished so strongly, I can't foresee a successful reboot within the next 10 years.

I think Nolan can handle any needed 'adjustments', it is his after all.

3. They just make a justice league movie without going through all the other individual movies, and that's really just a no win situation. You don't have enough time to build up each character so you'll get something like the League of Extraordinary Gentleman, or you fit everyone's story in just fine and you end up with a movie that overstays it's welcome... like Watchmen.

I would keep the Batman, new Superman, and Green Lantern that have been established and intro the others.

I have faith that Nolan and company can succeed with the Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern where others failed.

[speedkilz88]

Originally Posted by DemonBlood

Yeah, because her signing on to act in the sequel to X-Men:First Class and Hunger Games 2 shows shes way above that type of role...

She already had obligations when she did the first movies. Wonder Woman as has already been discussed is going to be difficult to pull off without being cheesey.

[theogt]

Originally Posted by Ntegrase96

Not excited for this, because three possible things have to happen and I don't like any of the options.


1. The JL movie will undermine Nolan's vision of Batman. It doesn't matter when the JL movie takes place if Nolan's vision of Batman continues. Either the end of TDKR is pointless, or all of the other movies are undermined by the fact that a flying invincible alien in red underwear could have shown up at any time to solve any problem that Batman faced. Can you imagine how easily Bane would have been defeated by Superman?

2. Batman has to be rebooted to fit the overall tone. I thought that Spider-man was rebooted a bit early, and that was after an awful third installment in Spider-man 3. That franchise needed to be rebooted and it was still too early. After TKDR finished so strongly, I can't foresee a successful reboot within the next 10 years.

[View Full Quote]3. They just make a justice league movie without going through all the other individual movies, and that's really just a no win situation. You don't have enough time to build up each character so you'll get something like the League of Extraordinary Gentleman, or you fit everyone's story in just fine and you end up with a movie that overstays it's welcome... like Watchmen.

None of these have to happen, actually.

[DemonBlood]

Originally Posted by speedkilz88

She already had obligations when she did the first movies. Wonder Woman as has already been discussed is going to be difficult to pull off without being cheesey.

I know, I was just messing with you. I laughed when I heard that the X-Men contract trumped the HG's contract...I laughed even more when it messed up the Hunger Games 2 shooting schedule. I hope it never gets made

I actually liked First Class. I think it was the best X-Men film yet. Even better then X2 which the fanboys seem to love. Hugh Jackman's 10 second scene in FC was the closest to the comic Wolverine then all 4 of the previous films combined.

Looking forward to Days Of Future Past.

[Ntegrase96]

Originally Posted by stasheroo

Why couldn't the big reveal in Man of Steel occur after the Dark Knight trilogy?

Then if Bale returns to his role as Batman it pretty much undoes the ending of TKDR.

Originally Posted by stasheroo

I think Nolan can handle any needed 'adjustments', it is his after all.

Perhaps. But he's not assigned to direct, only produce. Even still, I just don't see it. He nailed it with the DK triology. I feel like a reboot could only be a disappointment at this point.

Originally Posted by stasheroo

I would keep the Batman, new Superman, and Green Lantern that have been established and intro the others.

I have faith that Nolan and company can succeed with the Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern where others failed.

The Green Lantern is the easiest to salvage in my opinion. There have, of course, been multiple Green Lanterns and Reynolds doesn't necessarily have to return. The cosmic nature of both Superman and Green Lantern would be easy to blend... I just don't see where Nolan's batman fits in and a rebooted version, imo, would be very underwhelming.

[Ntegrase96]

Originally Posted by theogt

None of these have to happen, actually.

What other options do you propose?

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by Ntegrase96

Then if Bale returns to his role as Batman it pretty much undoes the ending of TKDR.

I could live with that. Don't you would think he would don the cape again if the entire world needed him to?

Perhaps. But he's not assigned to direct, only produce. Even still, I just don't see it. He nailed it with the DK triology. I feel like a reboot could only be a disappointment at this point.

Sounds like Star Wars syndrome to me. If you're against it, you don't have to watch any of them. You can keep and thoroughly enjoy exactly what you have right now.

The Green Lantern is the easiest to salvage in my opinion. There have, of course, been multiple Green Lanterns and Reynolds doesn't necessarily have to return. The cosmic nature of both Superman and Green Lantern would be easy to blend... I just don't see where Nolan's batman fits in and a rebooted version, imo, would be very underwhelming.

My opinion is that they invested over $200 million in establishing Reynolds and the character and I think Nolan and Co can get considerable better return on their investment.

[theogt]

Originally Posted by Ntegrase96

What other options do you propose?

I don't accept your premise that the Man of Steel and the Nolan trilogy being in the same universe undermines the Nolan universe. The premise behind Man of Steel is to create a very real world, and inject some fantastical elements into that real world. That was the same premise for the Nolan trilogy. It's the same world in both movies, because it's intended to be our world, not some movie universe. When you do that and establish a realistic world, it makes the fantastical all that more spectacular. The idea is to create the same feeling you'd have if you walked out your front door, looked up in the sky and saw some alien space ship or a human-like figure flying. Your reaction would be complete awe or shock, combined with fear, because you don't expect that in your world. Whereas, in the Marvel universe, by contrast, you can accept anything as possible because it has no realistic basis from which to begin. The fantastical becomes expected and less exciting or noteworthy.

The comparison I use is the difference between Signs and Independence Day. They're both movies about alien invasions, but the approach is wholly different. Signs attempts to tackle the subject as if it actually happened -- how we would react. In doing so, it creates a very accessible world, where -- if you didn't know otherwise -- you couldn't guess it was an alien invasion movie. Having aliens show up mid-way through the move doesn't "undermine" the realism of Signs. It makes the contrast more striking. When you watch the blurry alien talk across the TV screen in the news programming Mel Gibson's family watches in Signs, it startles you because it's fantastical and out of the ordinary. You could not have that same type of scene in Independence Day. Instead, you have to have the scene where Will Smith walks outside and see the gigantic space ship. It's a less intimate, less effective, less efficient way to convey that awe to the viewer.

[Ntegrase96]

Originally Posted by stasheroo

I could live with that. Don't you would think he would don the cape again if the entire world needed him to?

I can definitely see Batman coming back if he was needed. But, 1.) I think that still undoes the story arc of the Nolan trilogy for a various reasons, and 2.) Why would the green lantern and superman, men of infinite power, need his help? Not Batman of the comics, but this particular batman that Nolan created?

Originally Posted by stasheroo

My opinion is that they invested over $200 million in establishing Reynolds and the character and I think Nolan and Co can get considerable better return on their investment.

Don't get me wrong, I think Ryan Reynolds is a good film presence and can make Green Lantern work (probably better as The Flash, but that's neither here nor there). The movie wasn't great but his character and story is salvageable. I'm just saying continuity with Green Lantern would be easy to work with or around.