KTCK on what Parcells wants in his OLB

[MiStar]

Originally Posted by Dough Boy

Thanks for the links. I missed the entire thread. I can't get the videos to play.

I wasn't able to play them with Netscape, but they worked fine in Internet Explorer. Perhaps the problem is with your browser.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Rack

That's a load of crap. Parcells never said he doesn't like to try and disquise things. Ever.

He did say the part about the blitzing though. However, if you NEVER blitzed out of the 3-4, you'd only be sending 3 every time.

I suggest you go to the DC.com archives and check it out again. After the press conference, Dale Hansen AND this board spent a day talking about it.

He was discussing what Gregg Williams does on defense, and said that though it is a good philosophy, disguising the defense, it isn't his. He went on to talk about how he doesn't feel he should ever have to do that, that he just wants his defense to beat you straight up, even if you know what is coming.

And regarding the blitzing - you know what I meant.

[speedkilz88]

Parcells doesn't like to send more than four. I don't think he considers four a blitz even in a 3 man front.

[dallasfan]

Originally Posted by Rack

He had 8 sacks rushing the Qb PART time. If he rushed the QB as often as Lawson he would of had MORE sacks then Lawson, playing on a LESS talented DL.

That's not neccisarily true. If Carpenter was a DE, he'd be going up against tackles, which would make it harder. As a LB he's as likely to face an OT as he is likely to have a free shot at the QB.

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by Rack

Are you trying to tell me that it's Parcells' MO to praise his players? Please PLEASE tell me that's what you're saying. I'd love to prove you wrong two days in a row.

well, you said BP supposedly saying he wanted 10 players like Ware would be giving him too much praise

Originally Posted by Rack

What the **** makes you think I was referring to the original post when I posted "I just get annoyed that people have to make crap up to justify their favorite player being picked"?


Dude, don't jump into a discussion late unless you're gonna read the whole thing and be caught up. That quote wasn't directed at the original post. If you'd read up you would know that.

it was a joke Boo

Originally Posted by Rack

What would be funny about it? Have you seen my sig? Wimbley is one of the players I'm hoping for (so is Lawson incase you didn't notice).

yo, chill out and take some Mydol man, another joke

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by Smith22

No, I took it off. I like Canty as much as the next guy, but I thought our defense fell off more, especially against the run, once Ellis was taken out.

our run D was never that great to begin with, teams just didn't run at us much in the 1st half despite having a pretty good average

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by Rack

What position did Ray Lewis play in College again?

That's right, he played LB.


What defense did Ray Lewis play in during the 2003 season?

A 3-4.

Who won defensive player of the year for the 2003 season?


Ray Lewis.


You're opinion/theory shot to hell.

Ray Lewis was an ILB in the 3-4, his theory is about OLBs in the 3-4 being pass-rushers in college

[theogt]

Originally Posted by summerisfunner

Ray Lewis was an ILB in the 3-4

[Paniolo22]

Originally Posted by The Realist

This wreaks of Jackson vs Jones and we trade down and take Julius.

God I hope we take Mark Anderson in 2.

Who happen to most resemble the SOLB's BP has had before.

6-5/255, 4.6, 42 VJ

Willie was 6-5/250 when he came out.

BP likes height with his LB's along with size.

I would really be against Anderson. Yeah he is a good pass rusher, but that's as a DE. He isn't nearly athletic enough to make the transition to OLB. I'd rather have a Gocong later on.

[Rack Bauer]

Originally Posted by theogt

LMAO. Watching a clip and stating, "Lawson was the first to get to the QB" is stating a FACT. Look up the definition Rack before you embarass yourself..........again.

Ok then either you're completely ignorant, you flat out lied, or you're seeing something that wasn't there.

I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say THOSE CLIPS, but I was referring to the Mario Williams clip. In another thread you clearly referred to the Mario Williams clip. Let's see the backpedalling, because the facts don't lie.

I never said anything about Williams beating double/triple teams in regards to any clips. I made a general statement about it. Maybe he did beat double/triple teams in that clip. I don't know. It was a clip of a player we aren't getting so I didn't pay any attention to him.

Yeah, he did it while Mario was facing double and triple teams, and Manny blocked one on one. Most of the time anyway.

That is a general statement. I'm not dumb enough to say something about a clip that I simply did not see (here's a hint, who WOULD do that? Yep. YOU.)

Its pretty obvious Rack, you only have eyes for one player, it doesn't matter what you claim or put in your sig when all you do is claim one is great and the other you knock at all times.

Dude, STHU. I've stated ALL ALONG that I'd be happy with ANY of the three. I still state that on a daily basis. Don't go f'in telling me what players I like and don't like.

I just debate Lawson's strengths/weaknesses and which LB is the better fit cuz you MannyLovers refuse to face facts.

That happens when you have someone going around calling people liars and idiots.

I called someone an idiot? This is news to me.

I called YOU a liar cuz, well, you ARE a liar.

I suggest you go to the DC.com archives and check it out again.

You're the one making claims that he said it, how about YOU go search the DC.com archives?

He said the part about blitzing. He didn't say anything about not wanting to disquise his blitzes.

well, you said BP supposedly saying he wanted 10 players like Ware would be giving him too much praise

It would be. You don't agree with that?

Plus, there's no proof that Parcells said it. There's only a radio host telling him that some dallas scout was told that by Bill Parcells. From one mouth (supposedly), to another, to yet another, then told to the radio stations listeners.

it was a joke Boo

Jokes don't go over to well on the internet w/o the use of smilies.

yo, chill out and take some Mydol man, another joke

See above.

Ray Lewis was an ILB in the 3-4, his theory is about OLBs in the 3-4 being pass-rushers in college

This thread, in general, is referring to OLBs. But littlewebs said ALL great 3-4 LBs were pass rushers in college. He even said "There are no exceptions".

He even named off some INSIDE LBs so no, that was not his theory.

Originally Posted by theogt

You laugh, yet you are wrong. The guy referred to ALL 3-4 LBs. If you read (if you can) the posts, you'd know that.


Actually, from what I've seen of you the info could be plain as day right in front of your face and you still wouldn't be able to see it.

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

I suggest you go to the DC.com archives and check it out again. After the press conference, Dale Hansen AND this board spent a day talking about it.

He was discussing what Gregg Williams does on defense, and said that though it is a good philosophy, disguising the defense, it isn't his. He went on to talk about how he doesn't feel he should ever have to do that, that he just wants his defense to beat you straight up, even if you know what is coming.

And regarding the blitzing - you know what I meant.

Personally I think the ability to blitz out of the Parcells' 3-4 is minimal anyway because if the situation seems to dictate "pass" we go to four down lineman.

[jay cee]

Originally Posted by Rack

This thread, in general, is referring to OLBs. But littlewebs said ALL great 3-4 LBs were pass rushers in college. He even said "There are no exceptions".
He even named off some INSIDE LBs so no, that was not his theory.
You laugh, yet you are wrong. The guy referred to ALL 3-4 LBs. If you read (if you can) the posts, you'd know that.

I'm a little hesitant to jump into this p****** match but Littlewebs was referring to outside backers. I went back and I did not see where he edited his post.

Originally Posted by Littlewebs

All the best 3-4 outside linebackers (and many ILBs) were defensive ends.

[Rack Bauer]

Originally Posted by jay cee

I'm a little hesitant to jump into this p****** match but Littlewebs was referring to outside backers. I went back and I did not see where he edited his post.

Even the part you quoted mentions ILBs. And he even named off a few ILBs.


I didn't need any help, but thanks for the quote.

[theogt]

Did you hear that? It was the sound an ego imploding.