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clayman · 04-30-2006

NFL.com has Rocky graded higher than Bobby Carpenter among others.

iceberg · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by maxsports

I hope the Redskins keep giving away their draft picks. They keep signing veterans with no thoughts of building their team with young draft picks. Clearly, it is working well for them......when was their last Super Bowl?

that's a silly yardstick for *us* to be using after a decade of not sniffing the playoffs much.

Murph80 · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by clayman

NFL.com has Rocky graded higher than Bobby Carpenter among others.

Because of injury

**big dog cowboy** · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps

The Redskins targeted a player... made the move for equal value and pulled the trigger.

I hardly call that losing at this stage.

Just pointing out to everyone, Goose had him rated #39.

Gamebreaker · 04-30-2006

It really doesn't matter where mock drafts of people who are no more qualified to make executive decisions than you or me, place these players. Obviously, the Skins had McIntosh higher on their draft board than some other people. You never know, if they'd stood pat he could've been gone. I'd say the Skins draft board is more accurate in where a player should possibly go than these mediots who pretend they know what they're talking about.

I didn't like giving up the second round pick in 2007. I thought that was unnecessary, and they should've tried to move up with someone else. Yet as far as where McIntosh should've gone, that is just someone's un-qualified opinion.

jterrell · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps

I think Portis and Moss made the pick. Funny thing to me is that he always played like Lavar. Basically... in moments. Grrrr...

Looking at the draft choices the Cowboys have made THIS year, seems like their value isnt really worth that much outside of the first round. Then again they traded down for Jones in past years.

ROFL.
Seriously, the Skins should just avoid the draft and take a vacation after the first 3 days of free agency when they get through overpaying for guys.

Gfunk · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by lspain1

Gfunk, I am no Redskins fan, but I think that Snyder has done an amazing job of handling FA contracts. No one in the NFL does it as well as he does. He has assembled what is one of the league's top coaching staffs.

All of that being said, it seems impossible in today's salary capped NFL to win without a lot of good young talent on a team. There is not enough money to pay quality FA veterans at every position. The draft is how teams stockpile young and inexpensive talent to support the selected FA players. The Redskins seem determined to prove that whole philosophy wrong. I don't believe they can do it, but we all get to see the results.

[FONT=Tahoma]notice how your run defense went to **** last season when you started all your rookies half way through the season? we never have to worry about that

we target players, either via free agency or the draft, and we get our player

we can afford to do it, so I see no problem with ignoring the draft, the draft is just a gamble anyways... free agents are proven

we had no holes in our team (we had potential starters for OLB before the draft), young depth at a number of positions (look how much the Giants love our LBs, we obviously develop young talent well)... so we targetted the player we wanted and got him

I don't believe in this "wait till a player you want falls to you" bull****, you want someone, you go get him

not like we can't just trade to get a second next season if it's really that serious

we have a bunch of picks today, do well with UDFAs, and already signed some depth... I have no worries when it comes to quality depth behind our starters[/FONT]

Taylor_Can_Hit21 · 04-30-2006

With one first day pick was anyone really suspecting anything besides this

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AsthmaField · 04-30-2006

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[FONT=Tahoma]notice how your run defense went to **** last season when you started all your rookies half way through the season? we never have to worry about that

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[FONT=Tahoma]You should notice this year that those excellent rookies have learned the ropes and are starting to dominate... and they're doing it for cheap wages because they're homegrown talent... not overpaid free agents. They'll be reasonably priced for the first few years of their rookie contracts.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Tahoma]And no, you never have to worry about that either, lol.

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Originally Posted by Gfunk

we target players, either via free agency or the draft, and we get our player

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Originally Posted by Gfunk

we can afford to do it, so I see no problem with ignoring the draft, the draft is just a gamble anyways... free agents are proven

we had no holes in our team (we had potential starters for OLB before the draft), young depth at a number of positions (look how much the Giants love our LBs, we obviously develop young talent well)... so we targetted the player we wanted and got him

I don't believe in this "wait till a player you want falls to you" bull****, you want someone, you go get him

not like we can't just trade to get a second next season if it's really that serious

we have a bunch of picks today, do well with UDFAs, and already signed some depth... I have no worries when it comes to quality depth behind our starters[/FONT]

Spin.

Every draft day is a dissapointment to Redskin fans... what else are you going to say? "We can't draft for s***?" "We never have any homegrown talent?" LOL, of course not.

sacase · 04-30-2006

I was reading one draft report that said Mcintosh was a second day pick. LOL

Taylor_Can_Hit21 · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by sacase

I was reading one draft report that said Mcintosh was a second day pick. LOL

Oh really? Well you realize there are thousands of draft reports.

Gamebreaker · 04-30-2006

This is such an rehashed topic, one that was no more valid before than it is now.

We have plenty of players we've drafted or signed as UDFA that are contributors, but I guess this fact gets lost in the rampant, ignorant Skins bashing that goes on around here.

jrumann59 · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by Gfunk

[FONT=Tahoma]notice how your run defense went to **** last season when you started all your rookies half way through the season? we never have to worry about that

we target players, either via free agency or the draft, and we get our player

we can afford to do it, so I see no problem with ignoring the draft, the draft is just a gamble anyways... free agents are proven

we had no holes in our team (we had potential starters for OLB before the draft), young depth at a number of positions (look how much the Giants love our LBs, we obviously develop young talent well)... so we targetted the player we wanted and got him

I don't believe in this "wait till a player you want falls to you" bull****, you want someone, you go get him

not like we can't just trade to get a second next season if it's really that serious

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Pittsburgh Steelers, Super Bowl Champs

19 of 22 starters from that team were drafted by the pittsburgh steelers. Redskins are following the Al Davis school of Making a Dominate team thru FA.

Taylor_Can_Hit21 · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by jrumann59

Pittsburgh Steelers, Super Bowl Champs

19 of 22 starters from that team were drafted by the pittsburgh steelers. Redskins are following the Al Davis school of Making a Dominate team thru FA.

Too bad you cant say the same about the 3 time superbowl champion New England Patriots.