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08-05-2006
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#16
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Location: | too close to Phi |
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Originally Posted by Teague31
The Cowboys finished their work 20 minutes early, leaving the field at 10:42. Their faster pace got them through the tightly scripted work chart sooner than expected. But then, unlike ‘05, this appears to be a team in a hurry. That squad was unsure of what it had, force feeding lots of rookies and free agents. This team seems more concerned with what it can do.
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Thanks for the great job blogging these TC's. Please, keep it up! Living right by Philly, I only to get to experience a real training camp vicariously through the 'Boys website and this forum. (I refuse to watch the stinking Eagles camp clips on the news! And you think you get homers in the 'Zone...!)
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08-05-2006
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#17
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Banned
Joined: | Mar 2006 |
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Originally Posted by mikek3322
Thanks for the great job blogging these TC's. Please, keep it up! Living right by Philly, I only to get to experience a real training camp vicariously through the 'Boys website and this forum. (I refuse to watch the stinking Eagles camp clips on the news! And you think you get homers in the 'Zone...!)
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Seriously, man, you gotta learn what new and exotic ways we are going to use to beat the dirty pigeons this year so its not a surprise to you.
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08-05-2006
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#18
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2008, 2009, 2010
Joined: | Nov 2005 |
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Originally Posted by davidyee
...on the Drew Henson situation and why he continues to be a focus in the media reports.
I unfortunately have not been privy to any camps or practice sessions with Henson on the field, but if what people who are writing in these articles are in any way accurate, then much of Drew's problem may be in his lack of ability to telegraph/direct the ball to the point he wants to throw at.
There was another article that made mention that Parcells felt Henson's elbow location was a precursor to his accuracy problems. Two years ago the coaches changed his throwing motion to correct what was a 3/4s throwing motion. They were trying to get him to throw over the top more and achieve a more traditional release point for accuracy.
[View Full Quote]Another camp report says that Henson locks onto his receivers too readily and allows defensive players to get a jump on his throw. The report suggested that the defence this year is expecting to intercept some of his camp throws with calls out like, "Intercept that ball!"
If this patchwork quilt of interpretations is accurate, the speed of the game may be too fast for Drew and he has to lock onto receivers to overcome his accuracy problems.
What is expected at the higher of competition is the QB is able to look and make a split second decision and throw the ball to a spot where the receiver will be. It's a routine that is fast and decisive.
If you have accuracy issues that roll into a cycle of confidence problems you won't be able to function at the speed this game requires.
Past this camp, if he still at the same level, I don't know how much longer he can stay with the Cowboys. That's both for the good of the Cowboys and his own good. He doesn't seem to be progressing on our team.
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Fatal Flaws???
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08-05-2006
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#19
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Senior Member
Joined: | Oct 2005 |
Location: | South O |
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Originally Posted by JustSayNotoTO
Whats the problem?
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The problem, is that there is no hype surrounding Henson. The only place that hype exists, is in the minds of those fans who are so inexplicably opposed to the idea of Henson succeeding, that they view any reports on good progress as hype. Guess what? There haven't even been reports on good progress. There is no hype, but the anti-Henson crowd must claim there is, so they have some reason to speak out against this player who has done nothing but give it his best shot.
I know what happened. You, and those like you, took a stand. When Henson came in, people were legitimately excited - here we had a blue-chip prospect - what's not to get excited about? But there are those, who care more about "calling it" and having something to flaunt, as if that means a thing, than they care about the Cowboys. So you took your stand; whether your reasoning was (a) He is a failed baseball player. This has not worked before, it's not going to work again. (b) His heart must not be in the game, because his first love was baseball, and he chased the money. (c) I didn't like him at Michigan....or any one of the litany of retarded cracks that people who do not want this guy to succeed have come up with to degrade the player.
There is no "hype". There never was. There was excitement, and hope. There is "hype" around Pat Watkins - are you sick of that? I wonder what the difference is?
Give me a break. 
victory is ours
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08-05-2006
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#20
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
Location: | TX |
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Originally Posted by superpunk
The problem, is that there is no hype surrounding Henson. The only place that hype exists, is in the minds of those fans who are so inexplicably opposed to the idea of Henson succeeding, that they view any reports on good progress as hype. Guess what? There haven't even been reports on good progress. There is no hype, but the anti-Henson crowd must claim there is, so they have some reason to speak out against this player who has done nothing but give it his best shot.
[View Full Quote]I know what happened. You, and those like you, took a stand. When Henson came in, people were legitimately excited - here we had a blue-chip prospect - what's not to get excited about? But there are those, who care more about "calling it" and having something to flaunt, as if that means a thing, than they care about the Cowboys. So you took your stand; whether your reasoning was (a) He is a failed baseball player. This has not worked before, it's not going to work again. (b) His heart must not be in the game, because his first love was baseball, and he chased the money. (c) I didn't like him at Michigan....or any one of the litany of retarded cracks that people who do not want this guy to succeed have come up with to degrade the player.
There is no "hype". There never was. There was excitement, and hope. There is "hype" around Pat Watkins - are you sick of that? I wonder what the difference is?
Give me a break.
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OUCHIE MOMMA!!
That's gonna leave a mark 
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08-05-2006
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#21
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Maple Leaf
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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I don't know...
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Originally Posted by Big Dakota
Fatal Flaws???
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...anymore. One would think that some things could be easily cleared out of a person's system with some practice and minor instruction, but the Henson situation is a perplexing one.
Leading a receiver is a fairly basic premise at this level of football. If you want to be successful on gameday you have to be relatively successful in controlled camp scrimmages.
Possibly Henson is a player who needs alot of reps to keep himself warmed up. Possibly he's not a practice guy, but rather a gameday guy? Who knows?
But if he can't get over the "locking onto receivers" as one blogger noted, then he won't be in the league as a starter for long. That may be considered a "fatal flaw" in this business.
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08-05-2006
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#22
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Senior Member
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Too many posters are concerned about Romo vs. Henson. Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees! I couldn't give a rat's rear end about that competition.
What I'm concerned about is our FUTURE at the QB position and whether that QB can bring our team to the point that we can compete in the future with the likes of Manning, Brady, Palmer, Rothlisberger. (Bledsoe is nothing but a good, veteran bridge to the future.)
But If anyone on this board honestly thinks Tony Romo will be able to do that they are kidding themselves.
And, imo,Henson simply doesn't have the consistent mechanics to be a starting QB in the NFL. Whoever told Jerry in that college scouting report that Henson was an Aikman clone missed the boat. Aikman was the model of mechanics. Henson will never be consistently accurate with his throws simply because of his release. Period.
The Dallas Cowboys will NOT return to elite status until we get our QB of the future. We are exactly where Pittsburgh was 3 years ago before they hit the jackpot and drafted Rothlisberger.
Remember, in the NFL, it's all about who has the best QBs.
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08-05-2006
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#23
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Instincts to another flow
Years Donated 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
Joined: | Jul 2004 |
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Originally Posted by superpunk
The problem, is that there is no hype surrounding Henson. The only place that hype exists, is in the minds of those fans who are so inexplicably opposed to the idea of Henson succeeding, that they view any reports on good progress as hype. Guess what? There haven't even been reports on good progress. There is no hype, but the anti-Henson crowd must claim there is, so they have some reason to speak out against this player who has done nothing but give it his best shot.
[View Full Quote]I know what happened. You, and those like you, took a stand. When Henson came in, people were legitimately excited - here we had a blue-chip prospect - what's not to get excited about? But there are those, who care more about "calling it" and having something to flaunt, as if that means a thing, than they care about the Cowboys. So you took your stand; whether your reasoning was (a) He is a failed baseball player. This has not worked before, it's not going to work again. (b) His heart must not be in the game, because his first love was baseball, and he chased the money. (c) I didn't like him at Michigan....or any one of the litany of retarded cracks that people who do not want this guy to succeed have come up with to degrade the player.
There is no "hype". There never was. There was excitement, and hope. There is "hype" around Pat Watkins - are you sick of that? I wonder what the difference is?
Give me a break.
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Thank you to all donated to the Jason Witten Camp drive!
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08-05-2006
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Banned
Joined: | Mar 2006 |
Posts: | 7,360 |
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Originally Posted by superpunk
The problem, is that there is no hype surrounding Henson. The only place that hype exists, is in the minds of those fans who are so inexplicably opposed to the idea of Henson succeeding, that they view any reports on good progress as hype. Guess what? There haven't even been reports on good progress. There is no hype, but the anti-Henson crowd must claim there is, so they have some reason to speak out against this player who has done nothing but give it his best shot.
[View Full Quote]I know what happened. You, and those like you, took a stand. When Henson came in, people were legitimately excited - here we had a blue-chip prospect - what's not to get excited about? But there are those, who care more about "calling it" and having something to flaunt, as if that means a thing, than they care about the Cowboys. So you took your stand; whether your reasoning was (a) He is a failed baseball player. This has not worked before, it's not going to work again. (b) His heart must not be in the game, because his first love was baseball, and he chased the money. (c) I didn't like him at Michigan....or any one of the litany of retarded cracks that people who do not want this guy to succeed have come up with to degrade the player.
There is no "hype". There never was. There was excitement, and hope. There is "hype" around Pat Watkins - are you sick of that? I wonder what the difference is?
Give me a break.
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There is plenty of hype around this kid. From morons clamoring over him being a #1 pick the NFL draft to morons claiming his average, at best, season in the NFLE shows them anything at all, to morons clamoring for Henson to be given a chance he has never earned like it is a gift. There IS hype to this kid, and if you dont see it, dont talk about it.
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08-05-2006
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#25
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Senior Member
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you're pulling our legs, right...?
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Originally Posted by Teague31
– Eau de Oxnard: one thing I won’t miss are the water trucks that make regular passes over the dirt parking lots just outside the practice fields. I don’t know where they get the water, but it sends the scent of stockyards wafting over practice.
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this comment about the water smelling bad - that's bull****, right...? 
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08-05-2006
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#26
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jul 2005 |
Posts: | 2,884 |
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Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica
Too many posters are concerned about Romo vs. Henson. Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees! I couldn't give a rat's rear end about that competition.
What I'm concerned about is our FUTURE at the QB position and whether that QB can bring our team to the point that we can compete in the future with the likes of Manning, Brady, Palmer, Rothlisberger. (Bledsoe is nothing but a good, veteran bridge to the future.)
But If anyone on this board honestly thinks Tony Romo will be able to do that they are kidding themselves.
And, imo,Henson simply doesn't have the consistent mechanics to be a starting QB in the NFL. Whoever told Jerry in that college scouting report that Henson was an Aikman clone missed the boat. Aikman was the model of mechanics. Henson will never be consistently accurate with his throws simply because of his release. Period.
[View Full Quote]The Dallas Cowboys will NOT return to elite status until we get our QB of the future. We are exactly where Pittsburgh was 3 years ago before they hit the jackpot and drafted Rothlisberger.
Remember, in the NFL, it's all about who has the best QBs.
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yea because last years superbowl definately showed the best qb.
winning superbowls is about TEAMS not qb play. I think romo can get it done. I love how people think u have to have a homegrown star at qb to win a superbowl.
brad johnson,trent dilfer,even some of the superbowl losers rich gannon,jake delhomme,matt hasselback.
get real.
Terrell Owens
Give the ball 2 DEZ BRYANT!!! Baller!!!
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08-05-2006
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#27
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Senior Member
Joined: | Oct 2005 |
Location: | South O |
Posts: | 26,136 |
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Originally Posted by JustSayNotoTO
There is plenty of hype around this kid. From morons clamoring over him being a #1 pick the NFL draft to morons claiming his average, at best, season in the NFLE shows them anything at all, to morons clamoring for Henson to be given a chance he has never earned like it is a gift. There IS hype to this kid, and if you dont see it, dont talk about it.
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No. There's not. Not on this board. If the teddy bears attending your tea party are hyping him, take it up with them. But there has been no hype here. And unless you are a more recent incarnation of a previously banned idiot, then there's no way you could have observed hype that I have not seen. When Henson went to Europe, there were honest posts about how he performed, whether good, or bad. There was no glowing prose about how the great Henson was tearing NFLE apart, because those would have been lies. On one hand, there has been honest, open evaluation of his performance, and on the other - moronic disdain.
But hey, at least you chose a side, right?
victory is ours
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08-05-2006
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#28
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In Tebow I Trust
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Location: | Lindale, Texas |
Posts: | 14,895 |
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Originally Posted by superpunk
The problem, is that there is no hype surrounding Henson. The only place that hype exists, is in the minds of those fans who are so inexplicably opposed to the idea of Henson succeeding, that they view any reports on good progress as hype. Guess what? There haven't even been reports on good progress. There is no hype, but the anti-Henson crowd must claim there is, so they have some reason to speak out against this player who has done nothing but give it his best shot.
[View Full Quote]I know what happened. You, and those like you, took a stand. When Henson came in, people were legitimately excited - here we had a blue-chip prospect - what's not to get excited about? But there are those, who care more about "calling it" and having something to flaunt, as if that means a thing, than they care about the Cowboys. So you took your stand; whether your reasoning was (a) He is a failed baseball player. This has not worked before, it's not going to work again. (b) His heart must not be in the game, because his first love was baseball, and he chased the money. (c) I didn't like him at Michigan....or any one of the litany of retarded cracks that people who do not want this guy to succeed have come up with to degrade the player.
There is no "hype". There never was. There was excitement, and hope. There is "hype" around Pat Watkins - are you sick of that? I wonder what the difference is?
Give me a break.
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"We believe, we believe in each other that we can do it."~~Tony Romo
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08-06-2006
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#29
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Banned
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
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Originally Posted by superpunk
No. There's not. Not on this board. If the teddy bears attending your tea party are hyping him, take it up with them.
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and all the while there's a thread going on where someone is saying that we should bench Bledsoe in favor of Romo, and get this...some people actually agree w/ that notion! talk about hype...
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