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Old 10-10-2012   #16
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Don't even know why he's being discussed. He probably won't even be drafted until he's done with his senior year in the 2015 draft
I highly doubt he stays that long.
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Old 10-10-2012   #17
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Because you don't need a superstar quarterback to win a Super Bowl if you have a solid, steady offensive line and a great defense.
Like who? Tampa and Baltimore. And who else?
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Like who? Tampa and Baltimore. And who else?
New York Giants and Pittsburgh Steelers.

Big Ben and Eli are terrific players, but are they big time superstars like Peyton, Brady, or Rodgers? No I don't believe so.
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A dynasty requires a super star quarterback.
Conan O'Brien will work you until you are pale !
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A dynasty requires a super star quarterback.
How about we win a Super Bowl first before we worry about becoming a dynasty?
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I highly doubt he stays that long.
you are only right because he will be replaced by swoopes

It is not the waitress's fault!
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I highly doubt he stays that long.
He hasn't shown us anything to tell us he has the potential to come out early so far. Slow down on Ash. He's improving but as of this moment, he isn't a 2nd day draft pick much less 1st day.
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New York Giants and Pittsburgh Steelers.

Big Ben and Eli are terrific players, but are they big time superstars like Peyton, Brady, or Rodgers? No I don't believe so.
Raper and Sheli have 4 rings between the 2 of them. They are superstar Qbs.
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He hasn't shown us anything to tell us he has the potential to come out early so far. Slow down on Ash. He's improving but as of this moment, he isn't a 2nd day draft pick much less 1st day.
What? Have you not watched him at all this what? He's been superb.
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He's been asked to manage the game, drive the bus...just like AJ McCarron at Alabama in a run-first offense. I don't think a bus driver is worth getting excited for at this point in his career. Even Colt McCoy as a sophomore had more of a role as a passer in that offense
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what are you serious

I fully intend this team to be in the sweepstakes for

Tyler Bray*, QB, Tennessee
Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas

Landry "Lance" Jones, QB, Oklahoma

Alex Carder, QB, Western Michigan

Bray ftw..


I don't look at Ash as having a shot at starting at the next level.. Bray on the other hand could easily be the next Jay Cutler at worst based on arm strength and deep accuracy and if he gets his maturity issues in check he could be on that Peyton Manning level. He has that rare talent (Not RG3 or Luck talent mind you, but both are once in a generation level players.)
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he's crap, no better than useless colt mccoy
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Its hard to see how good he is because he has been on his back all day.
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I think he and most Big 12 starting signal callers in 2012 are system players and good college players not situated to make the next step, he isn't Sam Bradford, RG3 or Geno Smith...and I'm not trying to be insulting because I do think he's a good college quarterback, but he's probably more of a Garret Gabbert, who was a solid collegiate quarterback...and not pro material.
Agree.

And not just because of today, either.
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I agree you are being a Texas homer if this game did not show you his true self, do you really think the OU defense is that good?
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