DT, SS, or ILB with our first pick?

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Just wondering what people would take with our first pick, assuming no trade up, if they were running things.

For S&G, include O-line if you prefer.

Naturally, you would go BPA if one jumps out as far superior to the others. But assume for a minute they are all roughly the same.

I would go ILB simply because we have literally no one else to play there and I don't offhand know of any good FAs we could put there. I think we're in real trouble there. (I'm not a Burnett believer if you can't tell.)

I can see DE, though, by the "planet theory" that you go with big talent first. But I think that sometimes teams use that kind of thinking to reach on big underachievers at around this point. And in our case, Olshansky is IMO a reasonable possibility.

I'd go SS last, probably, because I tend to think that S is the easiest hole to fill on the defense.

What do you think?

I dont think thats true. Weve had like 2 good years out ofour safeties since Darren retired.
I think your underrating safety.

Any spot on the OL could also use some attenton besides RG.

I think the 3rd to 4th round is where we get an ILB.

I think our first 4 picks will be safety, NT/DE, OL(versatile tackle), and ILB

[Goldenrichards83]

Originally Posted by iRoot4Losers

holding 2 blocks still doesn't impress me

By the way I wasn't trying to impress you. Your question was what is it that makes Brace so worthy and what has he done without BJ Raji? I think I answered your question.

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by Goldenrichards83

I really think you don't. We need our version of Jammal Williams and this kid could give us that. I think he would have the same impact Haloti Ngata had for Baltimore. This one guy who you say absorbs blockers(which ins't a bad thing), could help our entire front 7 get better.

Brace isn't Jammal Williams, or Haloti Ngata
those guys actually penetrate through the line

Brace, doesn't

[Goldenrichards83]

Originally Posted by iRoot4Losers

Brace isn't Jammal Williams, or Haloti Ngata
those guys actually penetrate through the line

Brace, doesn't

He isn't there yet but he is working with Haynesworth personal trainer to improve his pass rushing skills. He could develop into something special. For right now he can absorb blocks while I'll lbers make plays.

[RamziD]

Originally Posted by iRoot4Losers

I get it

holding 2 blocks still doesn't impress me

You apparently don't understand what the role of a 3-4 NT is and it has become apparent that you are obstinate, so why should anyone bother discussing this with you anymore? Besides, nobody gives a crap what impresses you... all we care about is who can improve our team.

[Sam I Am]

Originally Posted by iRoot4Losers

why is this even a discussion? we're for surely taking Ron Brace

I'm not sold on Brace. Actually, I'm not sure I even would consider him first day. If I did, it would probably be in the 3rd round. All he has going for him is his size. Beyond that he doesn't have much. The play has to come to him as he doesn't really pursue the play, he is slow even for his size, he had injury issues last year, and he has major issues keeping his weight down. (can't steer clear of the brownies)

He gets attention because of his size and playing next to Raji. You couldn't move both of them from the middle.

[dmoore]

Originally Posted by RamziD

You apparently don't understand what the role of a 3-4 NT is and it has become apparent that you are obstinate, so why should anyone bother discussing this with you anymore? Besides, nobody gives a crap what impresses you... all we care about is who can improve our team.

What is the role of a 3-4 NT? I was under the assumption that Jay Ratliff was a pro-bowl NT in a 3-4 defense. Does he just take on blocks?

[DaBoys4Life]

Originally Posted by RamziD

You apparently don't understand what the role of a 3-4 NT is and it has become apparent that you are obstinate, so why should anyone bother discussing this with you anymore? Besides, nobody gives a crap what impresses you... all we care about is who can improve our team.

I think you need to understand Wade Phillips 3-4 a little more because it isn't a traditional 3-4.

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by RamziD

You apparently don't understand what the role of a 3-4 NT is and it has become apparent that you are obstinate, so why should anyone bother discussing this with you anymore? Besides, nobody gives a crap what impresses you... all we care about is who can improve our team.

this isn't the traditional 3-4 where the NT just sits there

[Sam I Am]

Originally Posted by iRoot4Losers

this isn't the traditional 3-4 where the NT just sits there

Parcells might draft Brace if that is the case.

Of course Parcells doesn't like guys who eat "biscuits".

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by nyc

Parcells might draft Brace if that is the case.

Of course Parcells doesn't like guys who eat "biscuits".

I vote we never mention this Brace character again

[DaBoys4Life]

Originally Posted by iRoot4Losers

I vote we never mention this Brace character again

same!

[RamziD]

Originally Posted by iRoot4Losers

this isn't the traditional 3-4 where the NT just sits there

Ratliff will be best used as a DE now that our depth there is depleted. His pass rushing skills can be best utilized there.

Phillips had Jamal Williams in San Diego and Pat Williams in Buffalo, both 320 lb + guys. Don't tell me he can't use a big NT in his 3-4 defense. You've really just become a broken record...

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by RamziD

Ratliff will be best used as a DE now that our depth there is depleted. His pass rushing skills can be best utilized there.

Phillips had Jamal Williams in San Diego and Pat Williams in Buffalo, both 320 lb + guys. Don't tell me he can't use a big NT in his 3-4 defense. You've really just become a broken record...

whatever dude

better value can be had later

I'm not arguing over an overrated prospect anymore

[Rampage]

Ron Brace>Bob