the numbers on Clarett

[dbair1967]

Before I post them I'm gonna say a few things...I've seen ridiculous posts talking about how dominant he is on the field, how he "carried" Ohio St on his back to a national championship, how he "dominated" against a great defense like Miami in the national championship game, how he is a "victim" etc etc...those of you who've made these posts know who you are

so I went back to get his game logs and needless to say, some of you are suffering from major revisionist history:

8/24 Texas Tech Win 45-21 21 175 8.3 3 4 30 7.5 0
9/7 Kent State Win 51-17 11 66 6.0 1 2 16 8.0 1
9/14 Washington State Win 25-7 31 230 7.4 2 0 0 0.0 0
9/21 @Cincinnati Win 23-19 Did not play
9/28 Indiana Win 45-17 21 104 5.0 3 1 8 8.0 0
10/5 @Northwestern Win 27-16 29 140 4.8 2 1 9 9.0 0
10/12 San Jose State Win 50-7 18 132 7.3 2 1 7 7.0 1
10/19 @Wisconsin Win 19-14 30 133 4.4 0 0 0 0.0 0
10/26 Penn State Win 13-7 4 39 9.8 0 0 0 0.0 0
11/2 Minnesota Win 34-3 Did not play
11/9 @Purdue Win 10-6 14 52 3.7 0 1 -1 -1.0 0
11/16 @Illinois Win 23-16 (OT) Did not play
11/23 Michigan Win 14-9 20 119 6.0 1 2 35 17.5 0
2002 Postseason Game Log Rushing Receiving
DATE & OPP RESULT ATT YDS AVG TD REC YDS AVG TD
1/3 @Miami Win 31-24 (OT) 23 47 2.0 2 0 0 0.0 0

he dominated the Miami game by averaging 2 yds per carry? He's a great all around RB but only managed 12 catches for 104yds? He missed 3 whole games and the majority of 2 others because of injuries, but Ohio St won all 5 of those games, doesnt say much for Clarett putting the team on his back does it?

never have I seen such an ordinary player talked up as much, the guy has almost a cult like following or something. NCAA History is DOTTED with players who posted similar or even MUCH better numbers than Clarett has and alot of those never amount to anything, even kids who genuinely work hard and have better physical skills than Clarett does struggle or dont make it. Not many RB's with 4.8 to 4.9 speed make any sort of noise in the NFL...maybe he'll succeed in Canada or the Arena League. Go back and watch some OSU games with Clarett, he doesnt look anything like an elite NFL RB, not even close

David

[jterrell]

Someone always has to overstate.

I am NOT a Clarett fan at all but you are being unduly critical.

He did come in as the highest rated freshman in the country and earn the starting job and become the focal point of that offense when healthy. He went for over 100 against Michigan, Wisconsin and over 200 against Washington state. Those are good defenses.

He isn't as good as his initial Heisman hype but is not as bad as you are suggesting either. As usual its somewhere in the middle.

The issue for me is the guy is not quite a frontline talent but has been pampered his hole life based on his football skill. He expects that pampering which makes it hard to see him as a guy who can be a backup or a work hard through tough times type.

Clarett does have excellent vision and he will hit holes. He is obviously big enough at 6' and 235 or so. He runs a bit upright and lacks top speed but he can play RB in the NFL if he gets out of his own way. I'd rate him a 6th rounder right now and a guy who may need to be a backup for a year or more.

[TRIPLETS]

Originally Posted by dbair1967

Before I post them I'm gonna say a few things...I've seen ridiculous posts talking about how dominant he is on the field, how he "carried" Ohio St on his back to a national championship, how he "dominated" against a great defense like Miami in the national championship game, how he is a "victim" etc etc...those of you who've made these posts know who you are

so I went back to get his game logs and needless to say, some of you are suffering from major revisionist history:

8/24 Texas Tech Win 45-21 21 175 8.3 3 4 30 7.5 0
9/7 Kent State Win 51-17 11 66 6.0 1 2 16 8.0 1
9/14 Washington State Win 25-7 31 230 7.4 2 0 0 0.0 0
9/21 @Cincinnati Win 23-19 Did not play
9/28 Indiana Win 45-17 21 104 5.0 3 1 8 8.0 0
10/5 @Northwestern Win 27-16 29 140 4.8 2 1 9 9.0 0
[View Full Quote] 10/12 San Jose State Win 50-7 18 132 7.3 2 1 7 7.0 1
10/19 @Wisconsin Win 19-14 30 133 4.4 0 0 0 0.0 0
10/26 Penn State Win 13-7 4 39 9.8 0 0 0 0.0 0
11/2 Minnesota Win 34-3 Did not play
11/9 @Purdue Win 10-6 14 52 3.7 0 1 -1 -1.0 0
11/16 @Illinois Win 23-16 (OT) Did not play
11/23 Michigan Win 14-9 20 119 6.0 1 2 35 17.5 0
2002 Postseason Game Log Rushing Receiving
DATE & OPP RESULT ATT YDS AVG TD REC YDS AVG TD
1/3 @Miami Win 31-24 (OT) 23 47 2.0 2 0 0 0.0 0

he dominated the Miami game by averaging 2 yds per carry? He's a great all around RB but only managed 12 catches for 104yds? He missed 3 whole games and the majority of 2 others because of injuries, but Ohio St won all 5 of those games, doesnt say much for Clarett putting the team on his back does it?

never have I seen such an ordinary player talked up as much, the guy has almost a cult like following or something. NCAA History is DOTTED with players who posted similar or even MUCH better numbers than Clarett has and alot of those never amount to anything, even kids who genuinely work hard and have better physical skills than Clarett does struggle or dont make it. Not many RB's with 4.8 to 4.9 speed make any sort of noise in the NFL...maybe he'll succeed in Canada or the Arena League. Go back and watch some OSU games with Clarett, he doesnt look anything like an elite NFL RB, not even close

David

lol...haha..whatever ..he was a FRESHMAN heisman trophy canidate surefire top 5 nfl pick if none of those problems arose.haters...man WATCH THE GAMES!!!! dont tell me you watched him play.

[TRIPLETS]

Originally Posted by jterrell

Someone always has to overstate.

I am NOT a Clarett fan at all but you are being unduly critical.

He did come in as the highest rated freshman in the country and earn the starting job and become the focal point of that offense when healthy. He went for over 100 against Michigan, Wisconsin and over 200 against Washington state. Those are good defenses.

He isn't as good as his initial Heisman hype but is not as bad as you are suggesting either. As usual its somewhere in the middle.

The issue for me is the guy is not quite a frontline talent but has been pampered his hole life based on his football skill. He expects that pampering which makes it hard to see him as a guy who can be a backup or a work hard through tough times type.

[View Full Quote] Clarett does have excellent vision and he will hit holes. He is obviously big enough at 6' and 235 or so. He runs a bit upright and lacks top speed but he can play RB in the NFL if he gets out of his own way. I'd rate him a 6th rounder right now and a guy who may need to be a backup for a year or more.

atlast a man with reason.im sick of defendin clarett...all this hate is making me a fan of the kid.someone needs to just start a hate thread and they can all go there and argue how much of a loser scrub punk bust overated slow dumb crooked type of person he is

[wxcpo]

Originally Posted by dbair1967

Before I post them I'm gonna say a few things...I've seen ridiculous posts talking about how dominant he is on the field, how he "carried" Ohio St on his back to a national championship, how he "dominated" against a great defense like Miami in the national championship game, how he is a "victim" etc etc...those of you who've made these posts know who you are

so I went back to get his game logs and needless to say, some of you are suffering from major revisionist history:

8/24 Texas Tech Win 45-21 21 175 8.3 3 4 30 7.5 0
9/7 Kent State Win 51-17 11 66 6.0 1 2 16 8.0 1
9/14 Washington State Win 25-7 31 230 7.4 2 0 0 0.0 0
9/21 @Cincinnati Win 23-19 Did not play
9/28 Indiana Win 45-17 21 104 5.0 3 1 8 8.0 0
10/5 @Northwestern Win 27-16 29 140 4.8 2 1 9 9.0 0
[View Full Quote]10/12 San Jose State Win 50-7 18 132 7.3 2 1 7 7.0 1
10/19 @Wisconsin Win 19-14 30 133 4.4 0 0 0 0.0 0
10/26 Penn State Win 13-7 4 39 9.8 0 0 0 0.0 0
11/2 Minnesota Win 34-3 Did not play
11/9 @Purdue Win 10-6 14 52 3.7 0 1 -1 -1.0 0
11/16 @Illinois Win 23-16 (OT) Did not play
11/23 Michigan Win 14-9 20 119 6.0 1 2 35 17.5 0
2002 Postseason Game Log Rushing Receiving
DATE & OPP RESULT ATT YDS AVG TD REC YDS AVG TD
1/3 @Miami Win 31-24 (OT) 23 47 2.0 2 0 0 0.0 0

he dominated the Miami game by averaging 2 yds per carry? He's a great all around RB but only managed 12 catches for 104yds? He missed 3 whole games and the majority of 2 others because of injuries, but Ohio St won all 5 of those games, doesnt say much for Clarett putting the team on his back does it?

never have I seen such an ordinary player talked up as much, the guy has almost a cult like following or something. NCAA History is DOTTED with players who posted similar or even MUCH better numbers than Clarett has and alot of those never amount to anything, even kids who genuinely work hard and have better physical skills than Clarett does struggle or dont make it. Not many RB's with 4.8 to 4.9 speed make any sort of noise in the NFL...maybe he'll succeed in Canada or the Arena League. Go back and watch some OSU games with Clarett, he doesnt look anything like an elite NFL RB, not even close

David

I'd say pretty damn good stats for a freshman. He was being hyped for the heisman, something most freshman aren't even mentioned for. He was the frontrunner entering his sophmore season (prior to legal problems).

Look at the 3 games he missed. Other than the Minnesota game OSU could have easily lost to much more inferior talent on those days. They were certainly a much different team without Clarett than they were with him. With him they win a championship, without him they don't. He helped in the Miami game with more than just his running. Remember the Sean Taylor interception? Clarett ran him down and stripped the ball away giving it back to OSU.

Your post proves nothing, it actually counter proves anything you have to say about Clarett because those are some really good stats for kid in his freshman year.

[wxcpo]

Originally Posted by jterrell

Someone always has to overstate.

I am NOT a Clarett fan at all but you are being unduly critical.

He did come in as the highest rated freshman in the country and earn the starting job and become the focal point of that offense when healthy. He went for over 100 against Michigan, Wisconsin and over 200 against Washington state. Those are good defenses.

He isn't as good as his initial Heisman hype but is not as bad as you are suggesting either. As usual its somewhere in the middle.

The issue for me is the guy is not quite a frontline talent but has been pampered his hole life based on his football skill. He expects that pampering which makes it hard to see him as a guy who can be a backup or a work hard through tough times type.

[View Full Quote]Clarett does have excellent vision and he will hit holes. He is obviously big enough at 6' and 235 or so. He runs a bit upright and lacks top speed but he can play RB in the NFL if he gets out of his own way. I'd rate him a 6th rounder right now and a guy who may need to be a backup for a year or more.

This is a post that I can certainly agree with.

[Kevlee06]

Did you notice what the Ohio St. offense looked like in 2003/3004? Horrible! They were a completely different team with Clarett in there. Now Ohio St always has talented RB's on its roster, but Clarett seemed to take that offense to another level.
He might have his problems and he's not all that fast. But please, you cant deny that as a FRESHMAN he was not an upper echelon college RB,