NFL PLAYBOOK Examines NFC EAST - Page 5 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

aikemirv · 03-24-2005

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Originally Posted by OILERMAN

You can't say anything bad about the Cowboys though......

The point here is that the Cowboys had many holes to fill from last year and Ferguson was rated by many as the top interior lineman available and now somehow, because the Cowboys got him , he is not that good anymore and won't have an impact. That is where the bias comes in. I thought he was very good before we ever got him - there is no bias.

dargonking999 · 03-24-2005

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Originally Posted by OILERMAN

You can't say anything bad about the Cowboys though......

no you cant say anything bad about the boys if
1)your are not a fan
2)it something that isnt true
3) gonna make people angry
4) a highly controversial issue

dargonking999 · 03-24-2005

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Originally Posted by AJM1613

Since when did I say Ferguson didn't have more sacks and tackles than Robertson? That doesn't make him better. Tackles are a real weak way to judge a player and sacks for interior linemen only go so far (Glover had more sacks and tackles than Seymour, does that make him the better player?).

And because I thought one Jets linemen was better than the other I'm bias? I didn't form opinions on these players today.

well from what i obersvered Ferguson got to the QB made plays and created havioc, Robertson didnt, so to me that means ferguson is a better player, now i dont know how you decide whos better or not, but its not right. (on a side not it was the DE i thin we all know his name who got double teams not robertson)

AJM1613 · 03-24-2005

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Originally Posted by aikemirv

No, you are Bias because you said Roberston was better than Glover.

I saw the Jets play a few times last year and Robertson did very little and Ferguson was always a prescence, that was before the Cowboys got him and he was my #1 choice for a FA pickup before FA ever started this year. And sacks and tackles aside Ferguson is better than Robertson from what I observed.

Well obviously I don't agree with you, that's your opinion and that's fine. I think Robertson is better than either your tackles or our starting tackles...that's my opinion and I don't think it's bias.

Glover isn't as good as he is looked at on this site, did not deserve to go to the Pro Bowl (Coleman did), and is better than Simon. My opinion.

bsheeern · 03-24-2005

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Originally Posted by AJM1613

Well obviously I don't agree with you, that's your opinion and that's fine. I think Robertson is better than either your tackles or our starting tackles...that's my opinion and I don't think it's bias.

Glover isn't as good as he is looked at on this site, did not deserve to go to the Pro Bowl (Coleman did), and is better than Simon. My opinion.

Ask any head coach or player in the league and i GUARANTEE you they will tell you that Glover is one of the top 5-7 DT's in the league. He has everything you want in a player other than he's not considered to be on the Rise. He's a Pro's Pro. Work ethic, desire, heart, knowledge, ability, commitment, dedication, strength, non-stop motor. He's a beast who hasn't had a DT line up next to him that is worth 2 cent in about 5 years!!!

The30YardSlant · 03-24-2005

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Originally Posted by ROYDESTROY

I assume you are kidding..I never even thought of your existence when i MADE UP A CHAT BOARD NAME.

Question for you to engage:

1) To what extent does this matter? And could it be that the people the thousands of people that preceded you with using RoyW themed screen names do not care that you "stole" their theme?

2) Is Roys name in your screen name?

3) Are you really serious???

I hope you are kidding and get the joke

Yes, it was sarcasm

DWAREZ · 03-25-2005

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitta31

Yes, it was sarcasm

sorry bro for the confusion some peeps are serious with the stuff

DWAREZ · 03-25-2005

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Originally Posted by Zaxor

I think AJM613 is closer to right than any of you homers are willing to admit

lets look at our 4 signings...

Offense

Deadslow..er I mean Bledsoe... If this were 1992 it is a good signing other than that he is probably no better or worse than half the qb's who Bill said will only get you to .500... I just do not understand how the NE fans and Bills fans can be cheering their gain by cutting Bledsoe and the Cowboy fans cheering their gain by signing him somewhere someone is not being truthful... so is he better than VT...who know but if he is I think it will be minimal....

Rivera... nice guard but was about done before the back injury (knees) now who knows what the Cowboys get IF he even plays

so overall on offense I do not see a marked improvement... and if the O-line is still porous than I see a downgrade as Bledsoe is less mobile than VT

Defense

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Yet you assume all of these things:

Drew Bledsoe was the best FA QB and fit for us considering Henson and Romo are not ready. You assume way to much ingnoring the success Drew had this past season.

If Rivera can come back? most people in the know think he will be fine and of course there is always a possibilty he may not but probability quotients favor him coming back at 33 or not being his first back issue and standard procedure.. GreenBay who knows Rivera the best sure wanted to keep him but they had no $$$...they saw no problems with his knees...but I guess your on their physician staff...ASSUMPTION busted!!

Thus, there is improvement on the Oline and at the QB position, you forget we are not finished in FA or the draft....HELLO...but a remarkable upgrade from what we had previously....don't ya think?

RB/WR/RT all can be had in FA or the draft.

Defense:

Fergi Boom...much improved at the DT position.

Henry...Much improved at RCB.

Our only holes are FS and DE/LB which we have the picks to address or pickup in FA.

Even as it sits we are much improved from last years squad.so fudge on your homer talk and stop sleepin with the enemy

.but we are not done...not even close

DWAREZ · 03-25-2005

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Originally Posted by OILERMAN

You can't say anything bad about the Cowboys though......

Or Texans Or Titans...WAaaah..

They both will suck again this year!!

DWAREZ · 03-25-2005

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Originally Posted by Eddie

The Giants will go as far as Manning will take them. At least they have their franchise QB. I'm jealous.

I think the Giants will make tremendous strides from last year. The games Eli played in gave him valuable experience ... and he punched us in the nose at the end of the year (with only his 5th string WR's available, due to injury).

We can sing our own praises about how well we progressed ... but other than Ferguson (and hopefully Rivera if he recovers), the other pickups are not necessarily huge upgrades over what we already had in place.

Bledsoe is no better than Testaverde, and I'm not really sure Anthony Henry is anything more than a rookie wonder living off his past accomplishments.

I hope to be proven wrong, but we still have severe holes to fill. No point patting ourselves on the back for a job well done.

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Your jealous of an unproven QB and you assume he is the answer see Leaf and Couch, Akili...Eli must prove he is good his name alone is not gonna get it done...he was horrible and only was slightly better after his game experience proving nothing.

Beating us last year is hardly an endorsement, 5th string or not.

Fergi, Rivera, Drew and Henry are much better than what we had last year..your on kookoo nuts.

Bledsoe is much better than a crusty Vinny, not a long term solution but bigger arm, YOUNGER, durable in that he does not wear down, makes better decisions.

Henry destroys any RCB we have had lately and has had 4 solid seasons..you know NOTHING on the matter. Even the crappy Browns had a better pass defense with Henry than Seattle with Lucas.

Obviously JJ will work with Bill for a better draft but you are foolish to think we are not a better team with these four additions relative to what we had last year.

lspain1 · 03-25-2005

Does anyone know when this program comes on again? I would like to see it. Regardless of bias, the discussion is interesting to hear. Last night they were talking about the NFC West

(Yawn).

Tio · 03-25-2005

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitta31

Another HeavyHitta31 name copycat.

Will you shatup????

(why doesn't anyone make a "wheres tio?" thread when I am gone, afraid you'll jinx it?)

Tio · 03-25-2005

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Originally Posted by AJM1613

I agree with him. The Redskins are the second best team in the NFC East...followed by the Giants.

You said the same thing last year, because they signed a lot of FAs and had a big offseason. Quit trying to stir the pot, you aren't fooling anyone.

Jed_70 · 03-25-2005

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Originally Posted by lspain1

Does anyone know when this program comes on again? I would like to see it. Regardless of bias, the discussion is interesting to hear. Last night they were talking about the NFC West

(Yawn).

I think you missed out on it. They do a different division each night.

The day I was trying to watch the NFC East review they preempted it with Live Coverage of P. Tagliabu's PC from the owners' meetings.

So I missed a good chunk of the NFC East show myself because of that.

OILERMAN · 03-25-2005

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Originally Posted by ROYDESTROY

Or Texans Or Titans...WAaaah..

They both will suck again this year!!

Go check the Veags odds and see where they think Dallas and the Titans rank in terms of winning the SB.

One has them tied and the other has the Titans with a better chance. This is after the Titans have purged their roster....lol

Maybe you better check where the Cowboys rank before talking about who sucks.