RGIII vs Luck

[cobra]

Here is another case in point.

Which is the better prospect?

QB A
6' 2" 220
Pass: 267 for 369 for 3998 yards (72.4%) 36 TDs 6 Ints
Rush: 161 rushes for 644 yards (4.0 ypc)
Heisman Trophy Winner

QB B
6'2", 195 lbs
Pass: 264 for 380 for 3032 yards (69.5%) 27 TDs 4 Ints
Rush: 65 rushes for 339 yards (5.2 ypc)
Heisman Trophy Winner, National Championship Winner

[Romo 2 Austin]

Originally Posted by cobra

Here is another case in point.

Which is the better prospect?

QB A
6' 2" 220
Pass: 267 for 369 for 3998 yards (72.4%) 36 TDs 6 Ints
Rush: 161 rushes for 644 yards (4.0 ypc)
Heisman Trophy Winner

QB B
6'2", 195 lbs
Pass: 264 for 380 for 3032 yards (69.5%) 27 TDs 4 Ints
Rush: 65 rushes for 339 yards (5.2 ypc)
Heisman Trophy Winner, National Championship Winner

Can't really determine just from #s.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Originally Posted by cobra

Why is that?

Well, statistically. Can't determine just based on #s though.

[cobra]

Originally Posted by Romo 2 Austin

Well, statistically. Can't determine just based on #s though.

Ok, well B won the National Championship.

Same size, same output, same accolades, one was more of a winner.

What more do you need?

[Romo 2 Austin]

Originally Posted by cobra

Ok, well B won the National Championship.

Same size, same output, same accolades, one was more of a winner.

What more do you need?

Well A threw for 900 more yards, with a better completion and ran for another 300 yards.

I understand what your saying and know that A represents RG3. I think that Lucks the better prospect.

[cobra]

Originally Posted by Romo 2 Austin

Well A threw for 900 more yards, with a better completion and ran for another 300 yards.

A is RGIII.
B is Charlie Ward.

As an NFL prospect, there is no reason to think that RGIII is a better prospect than Charlie Ward.

I'm not trying to dog on RGIII here. I like him as a player. I think he is a good kid. I think he should be the #2 QB taken (unless he is measured at 6' or less).

I'm just trying to point out that all the edgy wannabe draftniks running around trying to say that he is a better prospect than Luck need to knock it off. It's not remotely true. Success in college does not make someone a good NFL prospect. Exhibiting the features of a prototypical NFL Qb does. And Luck shows all of those.

[super8]

(unless he is measured at 6' or less).

I put in a wager right now he is not 6-2

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

This is like asking who's better Vick or Manning.

[jay cee]

Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

This is like asking who's better Vick or Manning.

Not really, Luck, nor RGlll have done anything in the pros yet.

If I had the no 1. pick, of course I would take Luck over RG, but I am not going to say I KNOW, which one will be the better pro. To many variables.

[super8]

But for Griffin -- who has yet to declare his intention for next year, on whether he'll be a fifth-year senior or NFL rookie -- the trouble arises not in what scouts can see on film. It's what they can't see

They don't call plays in the huddle. They walk to the line, the play comes from upstairs to the sideline, and it's signaled in," said one NFC executive. "The coordinator upstairs is reading the defense, (Griffin) is not doing that at all.
And in the NFL, you're going to have to be the one reading the defense. You have to know what's going on at all times. And you have to get him under center, taking 3-, 5- and 7-step drops."

One college scout assigned to the Big 12 I spoke to was less enthusiastic about Griffin's prospects than the above execs, but conceded that he's one that some will more than likely fall for over his overwhelming physical gifts

"That offense made things simple on him," said the scout. "Because he's such a running threat, he saw soft coverage, you didn't see defensive ends bending the corner to get him. They played him different to keep him in the pocket, and as a result, he got passing lanes he may not get in the pros. It's a problem, because he's got average-to-below-average size. The Vick comparison is there, because you figure he'll miss games (due to injury), but you can't tell him not to run, because that's what makes him special."

Beyond Baylor's offensive structure, other negatives you get from these evaluators start with Griffin taking hits that aren't necessary. "He's not as big as Cam (Newton) and takes more hits than he should. You wonder if he's trying to be a tough guy ... because he doesn't always play smart," said the first exec.

[casmith07]

They're both great prospects that do things very well.

Any team that needs a QB will be happy to have either one of them. One thing I really like about them both is that along with great talent, they're also great students. Smart, talented QBs = winning QBs.

[ringmaster]

Originally Posted by 2much2soon

Everytime I have watched Luck play he seems to stare down his receivers. And most of his completions seem to be very high-percentage.

With the huge hype around him, I think he is very over rated.

So why the hype?

I think Luck is a good guy. Personable, likable. He looks the part of the big time QB. The media wants to latch on to someone like that to create more interest in their product.

His dad was an atrocious, forgettable, NFL QB.

The media seems to imply something positive with the son due to his father playing in the NFL while ignoring how bad he was.

I think Luck is more likely to be the next Ryan Leaf than RGIII is.

Remember, Ryan Leaf was a "can't miss NFL prospect" too, at one time. And teams kept taking chances on him because of his "measurables". He looked the part.

I don't see Ryan Leaf anywhere in Luck, yes Leaf had million dollar talent but a 10 cent brain.

I agree that the media overrated Luck's value but the media overhype alot of people.